UTHMAN AL KHANESS YET AGAIN LIES
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Al-Qummi, author of the famous book “Mafaatihul-Jinaan”, writes in his book: “I say, Shimr was in the forces of Ameer al-Mu’mineen on the Day of Siffin.” (Al-Qummi, “Safinatun-Najaat”, vol.4, p. 492, Chapter Sheen Followed by Meem)
The man who killed Sayyiduna Hussain (i.e. gave the death-blow) was a man by the name of Shimr bin Thil-Jawshan and he was a Shia, as recorded in both Sunni and Shia books. And there is the proof from a Shia source!
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I would like to comment........all this happened because his so-called cowardly and spineless Shias, numbering 18,000, who wrote him thousands of letters and pledging their allegiance to him, confronted him (instead of standing by him) in the battle at Karbala. The same people who asked him to come and claim the khilafat turned out against him. And Shimr, the person who gave him the deadly blow, was a Shia as well. A fact admitted by Shia scholars and books!
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But if you insist that such a fatwa has been issued by Shia scholars, that is, anyone doubting the Qur'an is a kafir, then share it with us. I would like to then see you renounce your scholars of the old, like Sheikh Mufid and Qummi and all those who boasted about gathering 2000 narrations proving that the Qur'an is not authentic and that only Imam Mahdi has the real Qur'an.
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How can you compare any of this with what some of the most eminent Shia scholars have to say regarding the tahreef of the Qur'an? And who says that these narrations hint upon tahreef? That is what you want to believe and want us to believe but you should not waste your time on such things.
Not one Shia scholar has ever came forth to say that anyone doubting the authenticity of the Qur'an is a kafir.....you know why? Because that would make many of the old Shia scholars kafir!
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"He said it WAS almost as long as the chapter of the Cow"
The Qur'an was not revealed overnight! Just as verses were being revealed and added, other verses were being abrogated by the Prophet (saw) under direct order of Allah (swt). In other words, Surah Al-Ahzab was long and was shortened to what it is now DURING THE LIFETIME OF THE PROPHET (notice it says "WAS as long as...")
Why are you in a rush to forget that the Sahabas (ra), including Umar (ra), were hafidh of the Quran?
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Many verses, during the lifetime of the Prophet (saw), were abrogated and taken out of the final Qur'an. And this was normal until he (saw) passed away. What he (saw) left behind, after the abrogations, was the final Qur'an which we have with us today.
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These narrations have been answered and accounted for by the scholars of Ahle-Sunnah wal Jamah. What you understand from the content of this hadith is not what it is actually implying.
Compare this to Sheikh Mufid, Al-Qummi and Shia books that boast about 2000 narrations regarding the tahreef of the Qur'an.
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@baalffi Hussain was beaheded , dragged, mutilated. His head was taken on spears. His family was dragged to Syria, chained, humiliated. Would you like to comment why?
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"AQEDA is wrong so they LIE" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, OK SUREEEEEEEEEEEEE, IN Usool al KafiR it says Taqiyyah is 9/10 of our deen. HAHAHA LIARS LIARS ABU KATHAB LIARS LIAR DIRTY LIARS SHIA KAFIRSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Sunni traditions of tahreef
A missing verse on stoning?
Umar's saying that the current Qur'an is incomplete:
From "Sahih" al Bukhari Volume 8, pages 209-210, we read a sermon delivered by Umar during his last Hajj as Khalifa
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wow...everyone on this page is ignorant...none of u know anything about shia islam...before u talk about peolple and judge, lets learn to educate ourselves...shias are not kaffirs..they believe in the quran, mohamad(PBUH) and ahlul bayt...thats that!!!!
lebnaniapride 4 years ago 3
3uthman was killed like a dog by his own people. After he died no one was allowed to get to the corpse for 3 days. Finally 4 guys carried the body and were pelted with stone and crap on their way to Uthman's cemetary. Finally they were not allowed to bury the 80+ year old man in the muslim cemetary. So Uthman was burried in a shallow grave in the Jewish "Kawakeb" cemetary. He lived like a highway robber, and died like Tyrant.
baalffi 4 years ago