Re: What About Those...The Conclusion

I am responding to preacherman777's teaching/thoughts of what happens to the unreached when they die.

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[NotYourTypicalNegro]

You said regarding one who has never heard the name of Christ or the gospel that if they "die in their sins" you believe they are condemned based upon "God's righteousness and His demand for justice".

This statement begs several questions. One of which is this: How can a person "die in his sins" and be condemned, if he never had any knowledge of what "sin" was (a la Romans 7:7)? What, then, would serve as the basis for his condemnation?

[ericthered65]

"12 For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; 13 for it is not the hearers of the Law who are just before God, but the doers of the Law will be justified. " (cont.)

[ericthered65]

(cont) "14 For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, 15 in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them, 16 on the day when, according to my gospel, God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus." - Romans 2:12-16

[ericthered65]

That type of "anonymous faith" no longer works today because the Son has come.

[ericthered65]

What Jonah did was bring the revealed word of God to Nineveh - he brought news of God's wrath at their sin. The way in which man is justified is not different now than it was for Adam, Noah, Abraham, Joseph, Moses, David, or John the Baptist...it has always been through faith. And it was not in the revealed person of the Son as He had not yet been fully revealed, but it was in what had been revealed and the expectation of a Savior.

[ericthered65]

I believe that I answered this in my video response to this one that is posted now. I did this from Romans 2

[preacherman777]

By faith in God as he has revealed himself to them. Not so far removed from Abraham was justified by faith, though he never heard the name of Jesus.

[preacherman777]

Ah, but it does not say he brought them the law of Moses, which was the OT means of atonement. He told them God was going to destroy them and so they repented and God took compassion on them. So no, I think it's a point for my side.

[preacherman777]

Also consider the fact that Rev. 7:9 tells us that there will be people from every nation, tribe, people and language who will be saved. Quite frankly, if your limited view of salvation were true, this would simply not be possible.

[ericthered65]

Niniveh was given the chance to repent, exactly.... They were given that when a prophet of God brought the revelation of GOd to them. If one were to categorize that, it would be a point for my side of the argument.