First Maccabees 01/15 (First Book of the Maccabees)
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how could i get the original virsion of the maccrabees bible? and why is it illigal in the usa? i've seen the original, but it's not the same as the revised virsion they are selling in the usa.which is a fraction of knowledge that's in the original. if you can help me obtaine one i'd be most grateful.
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@chaneltanita I have just began to read Cracking the Apocilpse Code by Gerard Bodson. I tend to check out information given and am only on chapter 2. But he goes into how the Book of Revelations was not accepted as Divinely inspired until late fourth century. This speaks volumes. He also mentions similarities with Enoch and this book. We know that some works are in direct confliction with Scripture, however this does not cover the works you have placed up. Some things are shown at a proper time
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@Apocryphile1970 The Shepherd of Hermes is thought to be highly valuable by the Church, I have heard this said by Bishops and the only reason it is not recognised as divinely inspired is this one flaw, but if the meaning is misunderstood, its not poisoning, Scripture has everything we need to get to know God and to follow the Way, but this work and others you have placed up are not considered to have no value, unlike Gospel of Judas et al that have clear contradition and clear plato influence
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@Apocryphile1970 This is it entirely. I know the Catholic Church priests read and take on board the Shepherd of Hermes and it is this one thing that is called to doubt. But then this would depend on how it is meant, or how perceived, how translated, because when we convert and receive forgiveness, as humans we still battle against self and passions and temptations, and Jesus is clear that whoever sins you forgive will be forgiven.... and no sin is greater than the mercy of God if it is repented
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@Apocryphile1970 A purification of the Church will come, this is Scripture tells us. Not all that is considered as Apocrypha is considered against Scripture. There are parts that are not understood and in some cases an uncertainity.The Book of Enoch for instance, there is a mixed feeling overall but not a verfication of certainity that it is divinely inspired but then I know of cases where other works were concluded unworthy and later decision reversed.
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@chaneltanita There comes a time when the ENTIRE Church repents, and accepts the truth about the apocrypha. Remember how the angel says, "I will FORCE them to believe"? Someday it will be a non-issue, but only after it is more widely understood. I have learned not to question it, but to try and see the deeper meanings. I wish I were not so alone in this endeavor, for these things, if they were more widely understood would bring about the kingdom of God.....
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@chaneltanita I wish that you would not think so. I understand your doubts and concerns, but I have overcome those in myself by reading with faith. Men have come to these conclusions, and by so doing have poisoned the minds of people who would otherwise believe. The "Shepherd" is an apocalypse. Hermas represents Church leadership. The "repentance" about which you speak is nt as much about individual repentance as it is about the "Corporate repentance of the Church."
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@yesiriamfat Antiochus is thought to be a foreshadow of the lawless one, and the events to be a shadow of the chastisment to come. Like Christians, the Jews were divided by four different interpretations and books accepted and books not, teaching accepted and teachings not, this is clear in Scripture. Some Jews rejection is no reason to reject a book simply because they fought against many of their prophets, killing them or imprisoning them, they also reject Jesus Christ
could you please tell me what verison this recording is from. I am wanting to read along with the audio. Thanks.
marquisjean 1 year ago
@marquisjean It is from the Revised English Bible with Apocrypha.
Apocryphile1970 1 year ago
For example, there are numerous geographical and historical errors in Judith and Tobit, but that's just to let you know that it is NOT history. For Tobit to be related to AHIKAR was ridiculous, to say the least. But you don't have to read it as history. It's like anything else, it is to you what you make of it. I try to see what is being conveyed in a larger sense. God can write even history in parables, and that's why people get confused.
Apocryphile1970 2 years ago