"And please tell me which of the narrations that PROVE muhammads PEDOPHILLIA are ultimately unreliable. Please quote me books and numbers if you could?
Thanks"
I suggest you read for Dr. Ahmed Sobhy Mansour. He is an expert on this.
I have destroyed the claim for all Muslims, Quranists, Sunnis, Shias etc... Anyway, any Muslim, whether Sunni, Shia or whatever will tell you that if a Hadith contradicts the Quran, then that Hadith must be fake. I have shown that marrying 9 year old is prohibited by the Quran, hence it could not have been done by Muhammed. I have also shown you that it is the consensus of the Muslim, and even non-Muslim, modern scholarly community that Sira and Hadiths are a very later invention.
4. We have Quranic manuscripts that date to at most 15 years after the death of Muhammed. Sira and Hadiths date at least 150 years after the death of Muhammed. There is no comparison here.
What you have to understand is that what I am telling you here is not something I pulled off the air. It is the consensus of modern Muslim and even non-Muslim scholars.
1. Whether it is the minority school or the majority school does not matter. What matters is the truth. The truth is that the Hadiths are a later invention, somewhere between 150-200 years after the death of Muhammed.
2. "Transmission" of the Hadith is also a later invention. They were invented to make the Hadiths look "reliable".
3. The Sira is unreliable not because we do not have the originals, but because they are also a later invention somewhere 150 years after he death of Muhammed.
2. You have not destroyed the claim. You have only destroyed the claim for yourself and the minority of little 'quranics' out there holding onto liberal Muslim scholarly work to avoid facing the abhorrent acts of your prophet.
Islam prohibits pedophilia. Please watch this watch?v=Kqg4Tm3B6sk&feature=channel_page
"Islam DOESNT RECOGNISE pedophillia if the poor VICTIM (ie a LITTLE GIRL!) is MARRIED!"
Where does it say so in the Quran? Nowhere.
"The way in which SHAIAH LAW is constituted ALLOWS FOR ISNTITUTIONALISED PEDOPHILLIA!
FACT!"
No, it is not. If by Sharia you mean Islamic laws, then no. The Quran clearly prohibits pedophilia.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
I am a Muslim who follows the Quran alone.
"And please tell me which of the narrations that PROVE muhammads PEDOPHILLIA are ultimately unreliable. Please quote me books and numbers if you could?
Thanks"
I suggest you read for Dr. Ahmed Sobhy Mansour. He is an expert on this.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
"In that case then you must tell your sunni friends to REJECT SHARIAH LAW as it CONSTITUTED with the ACCEPTANCE of such VILE hadith!"
Sharia is supposedly based on Islamic laws. Islamic laws = Quran. Hadiths are unauthentic.
"Tell me does shariah law ALLOW a muslim man to take a 9 YEAR OLD CHILD for a wife?
I await your ANSWER on this!
Cheers"
No.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
I approve any comment that is not rude. I have approved all of you comments so far. I am not on YouTube 24 hours you know.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
I here challenge you to prove one "abhorrent" act of prophet Muhammed from the Quran!
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
I have destroyed the claim for all Muslims, Quranists, Sunnis, Shias etc... Anyway, any Muslim, whether Sunni, Shia or whatever will tell you that if a Hadith contradicts the Quran, then that Hadith must be fake. I have shown that marrying 9 year old is prohibited by the Quran, hence it could not have been done by Muhammed. I have also shown you that it is the consensus of the Muslim, and even non-Muslim, modern scholarly community that Sira and Hadiths are a very later invention.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
4. We have Quranic manuscripts that date to at most 15 years after the death of Muhammed. Sira and Hadiths date at least 150 years after the death of Muhammed. There is no comparison here.
What you have to understand is that what I am telling you here is not something I pulled off the air. It is the consensus of modern Muslim and even non-Muslim scholars.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
1. Whether it is the minority school or the majority school does not matter. What matters is the truth. The truth is that the Hadiths are a later invention, somewhere between 150-200 years after the death of Muhammed.
2. "Transmission" of the Hadith is also a later invention. They were invented to make the Hadiths look "reliable".
3. The Sira is unreliable not because we do not have the originals, but because they are also a later invention somewhere 150 years after he death of Muhammed.
ExChristian2716 3 years ago
It looks like someone is very selective in which of my comments they approve, doesn't it?
islamoscope 3 years ago
2. You have not destroyed the claim. You have only destroyed the claim for yourself and the minority of little 'quranics' out there holding onto liberal Muslim scholarly work to avoid facing the abhorrent acts of your prophet.
islamoscope 3 years ago