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Random Mutation + Natural Selection?

Think again...

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• design
• evolution
• debate
• creation
• intelligent
• God
• exists
• proof
• evidence
• sign
• epiglottis
• human
• ape
• darwin
• dawkins
• atheism

[Kieran27]

This video makes a false statement by claiming the system is perfect. If it were true, choking deaths would not exist. In fact, choking on food or other foreign object is thought to cause about 3,000 deaths per year.

Perfect design would mean NO choking deaths. Ever. If it were perfect, Heimlich would never be known as the man who helped save lives of choking victims, but as an extremely overenthusiastic random hugger of strangers in restaurants.

[HighFlyingDutchman]

look!

choke death is an evidence what would happen if epiglottis "tried to evolve".

a small mistake sends you to death,although you are conscious

think about what unconscious mutations would cause while "evolving" this system,each time.

also it is a sign how close death is to us

we can die just after a few minutes while drinking water,if we try to breathe

i choose to see the wisdom in these kinds of "not as perfect as a 'robocop'" systems.

thanks for watching and commenting

best regards

HFD*

[GBcancer]

you cant prove the existance of a creator but you cant look at the world with intelligence and not see the forces holding the world together. the watercycle alone with complexity enough to make the idea of intelligent design undeniable. Its not about believing a religion either... there all the same. man made and such small changes in details. but just as we evolved past barbaric things like slavery... we can evolve to realizing something or someone designed natural selection too.

[HighFlyingDutchman]

"He(Allah/God)is the One who sends down from the sky water,in exact measure,to revive dead lands therewith.Similarly,you will be resurrected."

-Quran 43-11-

Here,the verse clearly points to the measure in water cycle and uses the fact that dead lands are revived with water as an evidence that you will also be resurrected.

Peace and Love!

[RexNunc]

One cannot prove, either way, whether God exists or not. Simple

Natural selection, however, has been proven.

Also, one need not search for proof of the existence of God, that is, if you are a true believer.

[HighFlyingDutchman]

actually you are right,

just the existence of "you" inside "yourself" brings enough evidence that you are different than your body,it brings metaphysics and that brings God ;)

peace

[kirk703]

Again, it is not perfect and dolphins have a better design. Obviously Allah was a dolphin-lover, if not a dolphin himself, rather than a human-lover. And since octopuses have better eyes, dogs better ears, puffer fish have almost no junk DNA, etc., that seems to suggest there is a lack of perfection for the human body; not to mention, any of these fixes could have been done by the all-powerful deity in question.

[Kieran27]

Junk DNA refers to the mutations in the DNA code that are neither harmful nor helpful, but have no measurable effect on the species. As a result, they are not weeded out by natural selection and can accumulate freely.

Scientists have removed all the junk DNA from a mouse fetus and allowed it to mature. The result was a mouse that was exactly the same as a mouse that still retained it's junk DNA. Junk DNA is effectively extra baggage we carry that is not needed.

[Kieran27]

It's been over a year since I've commented on this video, so your reply was something of a surprise. Especially since the video in question deals with the windpipe, not Jinn coming from fire.

I do not see how Jinn entered into the discussion, nor do I see how I've offended you so much you would wish harm upon me. Please refrain from making threats.

[AALSHERRI]

Allah created the Jinn from fire. Do the Jinn evolve like humans? I wish a demon possess you till you die.

[Fightingirish1428]

re- family traits- im talking about evoloution as we understand it to mean, not something like hair colour.

[Fightingirish1428]

with all the harmony in creation and irreducibly complex organisms that doesnt work, at all.

ur theorys fine with cutlery but i dont see how u can extend it to creation, can u clarify?

[Kieran27]

Most aren't favourable. Nor are they detrimental. Most mutations have no measurable effect, just very minute changes that are considered 'family traits'

Evolution does not rely on mutation alone. There is natural selection. To use your cutlery analogy, imagine throwing up the cutlery and one piece falls in the right place. Leave that piece, and toss up the rest again, and another piece lands correctly. Leave that, toss the rest. Natural selection leaves what provides a benefit from mutation.

[Fightingirish1428]

i agree with what ur saying to a point

but theres absolutely no way that its a random haphazard process because thats like throwing a box of cutlery in the air and them landing all set up for a meal, its ridiculous.

how can random events prove to be so favourable?

[Kieran27]

A mutation is a change in the genetic structure, which is what all the changes I noted are. As for them being new developments, all genetic traits start with one individual. When that person has children, they will inherit the genetic traits of their parent. The fewer the people with this genetic change, the more recent an event it is. This is why certain genetic mutations (like the sickle cell) were confined to geographic locations before modern modes of travel existed.

[Fightingirish1428]

how are these mutations?

and how do u know they are new developements?

[Kieran27]

Several beneficial changes have been noted by scientists. There are an emerging number of women who can see into the ultraviolet spectrum, something most people cannot do. One genetic mutation present among around 10% european whites makes them extremely resistant if not completely immune to the AIDS virus.

For a more indepth look at such benficial mutations, please watch "8th Foundational Falsehood of Creationism" by AronRa.

[Fightingirish1428]

can u provide an example of a beneficial change?