Disappointing Gay Best Friend: HOT TRANNY MESS

written and performed by Mikala Bierma and Tyler Coates
directed by Mike Lacher

Category:

Comedy

Tags:

• gay
• comedy
• hot mess
• disappointing gay best friend

[AllieMcKeen]

@fratguy76 Yeah, every time I hear a girl call a guy (gay or otherwise) "girl", it makes me cringe.

Then again, I'm one of those people who gets all pissy when people don't understand the difference between sexual orientation and gender identity. Being a gay man means one thing and one thing only - you are sexually attracted to men. It doesn't mean you're girly or eccentric or sassy. If you happen to be any of those things, it's not because you're gay. It's because that's your personality

[vCollected]

That transphobic slur was not cool.

[TheDanteOxalis]

@vCollected Well it's kinda appropriate, since the fag hag is the antagonist, and you're not supposed to like her

[optifog]

@daffy88808 The feminine women>masculine women bit is indeed what I'm least confident about. There are exceptions to the rule but I went with that order because outside of certain spheres, masculine women seem to face more potential issues (teased at school for not conforming, more sexist judgements of their appearance, etc.). Femme males can't convince authorities to class their mistreatment as misogyny, because they're men, so we need a word that refers to it more specifically IMO.

[daffy88808]

@optifog I'm not so sure about that hierarchy you drew up here, especially when it comes to feminine women>masculine women. It's more complex than that.

What we have to look into is WHY feminine men get the "freak of nature"-treatment. The most obvious answer is that femininity is gross and degrading, and there is something deeply wrong with a man who would ever stoop so low and "be like a woman". Which is misogyny.

It's nice to see some thinking people in youtube comments btw.

[optifog]

@daffy88808 I'm female and while I think misogyny and effeminophobia EMERGE from the same thing (belief, often unconscious, that masculinity is superior to femininity), they are two VERY different manifestations of it. The hierarchy goes: masculine males>feminine females>masculine females>feminine males. Females are seen as inferior and patronised whereas feminine males are seen by the very same people as absolutely detestable freaks of nature and/or attention-seeking embarrassments.

[daffy88808]

@optifog Well, there are some valid objections to the term "effiminophobic" and the concept of femmephobia, but they are obviously not that "there's nothing wrong with hating feminine people". The point is that it introduces a fancy new word for what is basically misogyny, and we don't even have to think about women anymore when we vilify femininity.

[optifog]

@PraecoNoctis There's a blog post of a guy who went to school with actor Jim Parsons (I mentioned him in private message to you). He used to think homosexuality was "disgusting" and although Jim never said he was gay, because he was "very effeminate" the guy suspected he was, and so "took a while to warm up to him". How NICE Jim was "changed my entire outlook on life" and "Jim allowed me to accept people for the person they are, rather than what I thought they should be."

[PraecoNoctis]

@optifog if you ever use the word 'effeminophobic' in a serious manner you should go home and rethink your life.

being gay doesn't give a man a license to be an effeminate tw£t. why people think it does I don't know. it's getting annoying being associated with chris crocker types purely by sexual orientation

[doombuggy123]

@AllieMcKeen What if a guy addresses a group of people containing both men and women as "dudes" or "guys"?

[MrCherryBoii]

The jingle never gets old.

[fishhead06]

@optifog I think you're overanalysing them a tad.