Joe the Plumber Questions Obama's Loyalty to the U.S.

have you ever read Marx? do you now what Marxism is?

Joe the plumber is an idiot like most Americans.

Obama is a liberal... on the verge of being conservative... but he clearly works for conservative guys...

If you're a libertarian, you should also be offended by calling him a marxist... cause that means that:
Libertarians, Social Democrats, Liberals, Anarchists, etc etc etc are Radical Marxists...

Obama does not share my opinions... at all.

Sure. Obama is not a socialist. He's not openly espousing government control of private industry. But in a speech to Congress he warned of the "perils of too little government." So he's not a libertarian either. He's somewhere.

There can be different types of "big government"

A big government can spend money on things that matter... such as health-care and education...

A big government can spend money on things that are wasteful and stupid... such as the military...

Obama is a fascist... it's quite a right-wing ideology... so he's closer to conservatism than libertarianism.

We socialists/marxists don't like fascists ^^

MazdakTV, Why is it a "right wing" ideology? Fascism means dictatorial control. That's nothing like libertarianism. In my opinion, fascism is a left wing ideology.

Think of it like a graph that starts high on the left, then goes steadily down as it goes to the right. Total government towards no government.

Unfortunately for you... that's not how the graph goes...Right-Left is not a measurement of government size...

Fascism has __nothing__ at all to do with marxism or socialism... it is quite the antithesis of them.

You are right that fascism means dictatorial control (and specifically, corporations becoming the government... kinda like you have in USA)

Libertarianism can lean towards socialism...
Socialistic Libertarianism =)

And don't forget, that libertarianism is more or less anarchism... so while we're at it... we have something called anarcho-communism...

The correct scales would be: "Left -> Right" and "Authoritarian -> Libertarian".

There, Fascism scores Extreme { Right + Authoritarian }, and the libertarianism you're speaking of is Right, Libertarian.

politicalcompass . org

When doing polit-science you have to understand that the scales are simplified...

government control of private industry is socialism dude.