Dun Laoghaire to Paris Low Carbon

Took a slow travel trip from Dun Laoghaire to Paris and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. It was like returning to the golden age of travel

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[CiaranCuffe]

Well, water's good for you as well, as a life giving fluid, but if you get too much of it you drown. Plus, my understanding is that the globe is warming, but maybe you've heard something different

[CiaranCuffe]

Thomas, I'm a fan of slow travel. I'd never argue that carbon is the only factor to take into account.

Evantis,

Metro North is a good project in its own right, not just because it gives the airport a fixed-rail link

[CiaranCuffe]

Less carbon emissions Thomas, plus you get to do a bit of reading on the journey, what's bad about that?

[CiaranCuffe]

Yeh, but how many cars and trucks does the plane carry? I think if you do the maths the carbon emitted per person or per kilo carried is better by HSS than by plane

[CiaranCuffe]

I'd say between one tenth to one fiftieth of air travel

[Fordprefect1000]

How was this low carbon? You went on a ship.  The ship is excluded from Kyoto and ships are twice as polluting as airliners? How is this anything other than "I don't like Michael O'Leary"?

[CiaranCuffe]

Ships are between one twentieth to one hundreth less carbon intensive than air travel. You need to read beyond the Guardian headlines, and get into the main text of that article! Bon voyage, Ciarán

[1madaboutguitar]

Trains are cool but I dont dig the low carbon, being as its a life giving gas and the globe is not even warming

[hanifbul]

I'm surprised it's just 12 hours. I would have guessed longer than that. And I didn't know that Virgin trains go to Holyhead. Last time I went is a few years ago and the train was very por quality and had to change at Crewe.

[evantis121]

@Fordprefect1000 I wouldn't give any time to this guy. This so called sustainable transport minister and his fellow "green" party ministers have forced through a rail link to the airport to the detriment of other rail projects. Just in case it wasn't attractive enough to fly, now you'll have a metro right to your plan thanks to the Greens.

[tumadoireacht]

I took train journeys from Dublin to Drogheda and Wexford during the day recently. A thousand ton train with13 people these distances and employing 5 is idiotic from a carbon debt and every other consideration. Small off peak rail buses would make sense. Small private rail buses on the dart when the big darts have stopped would make a lot of sense. They could reopen the rosslare waterford line. they could be driven by passengers or remotely. CIE is stuck in 1872. family runs it ?

greens myass

[thomasrneville]

@thomasrneville Apologies for the words "it's more faster", a little gramatical faux pas.

[thomasrneville]

@CiaranCuffe I'm a fan of fast travel, it's more faster, cheaper and more efficient. I'd love low carbon travel everywhere, but I can't ignore reality.

[evantis121]

@CiaranCuffe Metro North estimates a ridership of 34 Million a year according to the RPA, the Dart Underground project would have boosted existing ridership from 30 Million to 100 Million a year, Twice the environmental benefit of the Metro North.

Face it Ciaran, You and your Green Party cronies shelved the more environmental project just because Metro North runs through Trevor Sargent's constituency.

[evantis121]

@CiaranCuffe Metro North promotes the use of Dublin Airport as a means of travel, Hardly sustainable transport Ciaran. You and your fellow Green Party ministers have chosen this over a project that would like the two busiest railway stations to Dublin's central business and retail districts.