You are wrong about that sir. TD fits very well into the current costs of crude production. It requires some skill and finesse, but so does drilling for oil. Depending on the feedstock, costs can be very low. Give me a TD plant and train loads full of discarded tires and I'll crank out oil at $25 easily. Make that feed stock turkey offal and that cost may rise to 40.
@madjimms Not unless you use it's industrial waste heat to cogenerate electricity by using a low pressure and low temperature ammonia gas turbine powered turbogenerators.
@rocketplumber and the water is what they said in the video recycled so if the recycled water is already hot it doesnt take that much energy to get it back up to the desired heating temp for the next batch process.if you go to 1:01 you notice all the white pipe, that is insulated pipe for retention of heat and again at 1:52 the white bigger tanks are also insulated.most likely the uncovered pipe acts like condensers or water return lines in the closed loop system
@madjimms No, TDP has a modest energy cost, about 15% of the heat of combustion of the feedstock. The cost of the equipment is significant, but not crippling. At full scale, the process cost would be around $20 to $30/barrel, and the latest crude oil price is over $100/bbl, so this is an excellent way to recycle organic waste.
@kajole1 This factory is using MASSIVE amounts of electricity & fuel to break down the carbon chains.....
THAT is why it is a scam.... I am not saying you cannot do thermal depolymerization, its just very expensive & not very cost effective. (unless you charge a HUGE amount per barrel)
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You are wrong about that sir. TD fits very well into the current costs of crude production. It requires some skill and finesse, but so does drilling for oil. Depending on the feedstock, costs can be very low. Give me a TD plant and train loads full of discarded tires and I'll crank out oil at $25 easily. Make that feed stock turkey offal and that cost may rise to 40.
MaxTheCrystalSkull 3 months ago
any energy overhead can and should be supplemented with solar energy.
malibaros 4 months ago
@darthvader5300 Then you have to refine & transport the fuel..... Thus increasing the energy overhead.
madjimms 4 months ago
@madjimms Not unless you use it's industrial waste heat to cogenerate electricity by using a low pressure and low temperature ammonia gas turbine powered turbogenerators.
darthvader5300 4 months ago
@madjimms From Wikipedia: "Final cost, as of January 2005, was $80/barrel ($1.90/gal)."
The spot price of crude oil hit $81 a barrel today... and that was the lowest spot price this year.
It's not a scam. It's a substitute that is only comparable in price when we hit oil-shortage levels... which is what $100 a barrel is.
valeriereified 5 months ago
@rocketplumber and the water is what they said in the video recycled so if the recycled water is already hot it doesnt take that much energy to get it back up to the desired heating temp for the next batch process.if you go to 1:01 you notice all the white pipe, that is insulated pipe for retention of heat and again at 1:52 the white bigger tanks are also insulated.most likely the uncovered pipe acts like condensers or water return lines in the closed loop system
tappakeggaday1 10 months ago
@rocketplumber Where did you get those figures?
madjimms 11 months ago
@madjimms No, TDP has a modest energy cost, about 15% of the heat of combustion of the feedstock. The cost of the equipment is significant, but not crippling. At full scale, the process cost would be around $20 to $30/barrel, and the latest crude oil price is over $100/bbl, so this is an excellent way to recycle organic waste.
rocketplumber 11 months ago
@kajole1 This factory is using MASSIVE amounts of electricity & fuel to break down the carbon chains.....
THAT is why it is a scam.... I am not saying you cannot do thermal depolymerization, its just very expensive & not very cost effective. (unless you charge a HUGE amount per barrel)
madjimms 1 year ago
This will not be allowed. It will be stiffled, censored and outlawed at every turn by politicians in big oil's pocket.
kajole1 1 year ago