Gibbs On Reconciliation: There Are A Lot of Different Avenues

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June 30, 2009

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News & Politics

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• Health
• Care
• Reform
• Reconciliation
• Gibbs

[CynicalSavior]

Demand public option! Do not let the insurance companies and HMOs continue to profit off of the sick and dying.

[dogstar7]

WTF?!!

YouTube is running targeted ads from a group calling itself HAARM: 'Healthy Americans Against Reforming Medicine'

Is that like 'Wealthy Assholes Against Giving Back the Money Republicans Stole'

...or 'Safe Sons of CEO's Against Ending Wars Somebody Else Fights So We Become Richer'

..or 'Let's Just Spit In the Face Of The Dwindling American Middle Class and Make More Money For Foreign Investment Banks'

[taoofmichael]

If you want a political guru -- on foreign policy and domestic economics -- go with Noam Chomsky.

Not Ron Paul.

[boots920]

"Since when does expanding the money supply solve anything"

USA 30's - In 1933 the government confiscated the people gold, stealing money from your citizens isn't expanding the money supply, its called theft. "Patriot Act", yep it has gold confiscation in it again.

Japan - 1990's - Their stock market is still down 80% from 1989.

Health care it is, Obama is doing both...he's spinning the truth.

[taoofmichael]

"Since when does expanding the money supply...solve anything?"

USA 1930s

Japan -- 1990s

To good examples. There are others.

I'll take the health care instead of the war.

[boots920]

"We are operating from two sets of facts"

No we're not, I being real you're talking in spin. I know counterfeiting money is going to be a total disaster not only for the American people, you idiots control world reserve currency. Its doing the whole global economy in.

Since when does expanding the money supply with fiat currency (monopoly money) solve anything.

Its Zimbabwe economic strategy and Obama not facing reality (he's all about spin) .

Ex. Health care or war - you can't have both.

[taoofmichael]

We are operating from two different sets of facts. So nothing can be gained through debate. Its like arguing over religion. You Ron Paulers have faith. And I dont want to try to talk anyone out of their religious beliefs.

I have persoanlly heard Obama talk about the role the Fed is playing, and Ben Bernanke, at least 20 times in the last 6 months, and I'm not even watching that much TV.

Did you watch the Noam Chomsky video #1in my favorites list? All the best to you. Peace.

[boots920]

$12 Trillion has been created by the Federal Reserve, the money supply has been expanded by $12 Trillion dollars.

You're not following this news, in the hearings one congressman asked who they lent 2.0 Trillion to, the Fed told them to get stuffed.

This is what I'm talking about you have to start getting real before you fix the system. Obama doesn't even talk about the Fed and the the roll its playing.

[taoofmichael]

$12 trillion created in the last year? Where do you get this shit?

Obama has been in office for 6 months. His budget is 1.6 trillion (including the wars, which Bush never included in his budgets.) The $10 trillion figure is what the Obama administration estimates would be the worst case scenario (if the recession continues much longer than expected,) OVER TEN YEARS -- not one year.

[boots920]

"America is not bankrupt" ???

I think your 59 figure and 08 figure is about right the 09 figure is $218,000.

So no problem with the 12 Trillion dollars of money that has been created in the last year, or that won't have any affect on the US economy ? (US dollar should remain strong right ?)

[taoofmichael]

Please watch video, Noam Chomsky on Libertarianism. Its in my favorites -- just click on my user name. Its the first one. Then you can argue with Noam Chomsky, major genius, professor of linguistics at MIT, better informed on foreign policy than anyone in America. Ron Paul is a spoiled child compared to Noam Chomsky.

[taoofmichael]

"America is not bankrupt" I think the burden of proof is on you -- since you made the original claim that America IS bankrupt. When I look at the debt as percentage of GDP, I see that we are no worse off now than we have been, more than once, in the past.

An average house 1959 -- $6000. Average house 2008 -- $240,000. What were we arguing about again?