Martial Arts odyssey: Muay Boran Part 2

Host, Antonio Graceffo, travels to Khmer Suring province of Thailand to study Muay Thai Boran with Adjan Sok Chai, the first teacher of film star Tony Jaa. Khmer Surin province used to be part of Cambodia, and Antonio explores the connection between Khmer Bokator and Muay Thai Boran.

Adjan sok Chai is an ascetic, a kind of Brahman Holliman, who lives a life of meditation, suffering, training and helping.
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[clearcombat]

Boy, I 'll tell you Muay Boran is really a forgotten martial art, even in Thailand. If it is so deadly and effective then why have so few Thai's gone on to teach it. A lot of the moves are telegraphic. In America, we use what works and discard what does not. Maybe it is forgotten for a reason, it never evolved. The kicks that you are showing aren't really special. I like the history of Siam into Thailand, Muay Boran into Thai Boxing and Krabi Krabong into Ledrit.

[lazy702622]

@clearcombat Old comment but very agreeable but..

1.Muay Boran is a modern term for all ancient thai boxing styles, there fore is neither a style nor a name of a style. its just a term like the word "Martial art" .

2.So few Thai masters teach it bekuz most of it is techniques are not legal, and muay thai is a business why bother training something you cant use in the ring?

3.You said its forgotten kuz it never evolved....it DID evolved...into modern "MUAY THAI"..lol

[brooklynmonk1]

@lazy702622 Yeah, I agree with everything you said. Boran is anything before 1920's and obviously it evloved over centuries. the moves are not legal in sport muay thai, so they arent generally taught anymore, because it would be a waste of time.

[brooklynmonk1]

@clearcombat No one teaches muay boran because you cant make money with it. in Thailand, you make money by training fighters. they go fight and you get a percentage. there are no muay boran fights. By definition, boran is just anything before 1920s when modern sport muay Thai was codified. The kicks are extremely special in that they don't exist in modern sport muay Thai. how did you evaluate that sok chai telegraphs? Did you fight him? how many years did you spend training over here?

[clearcombat]

@brooklynmonk1 Don't people just want to learn self defense by learning Boran?

[clearcombat]

@lazy702622 How can Muay Boran be a modern term for ancient Thai boxing? It is a generic term for ancient boxing. Many techniques are not legal? They are taught all the time in America, for instance: eye strikes, groin strikes, head butts, etc. Boran is a self defense system that helped the Thai armies defend the people. Now it is used by the Royal Army and called Ledrit.

[Megabop5]

@clearcombat

i just can tell you this,the guy which is running on his hands,is actual the master of a good friend of mine,and was the first teacher of international martial arts superstar tony jaa,every thing he shows in this vids,is for sure not the things he would teach his students,if he takes one.he is a very nice person,and absolutely deadly if someone would threaten him with life..believe me.

[ACLogikel]

@allinthemix10 Reading comprehension is not your strong suit. You are not going to finger jab a trained fighter accurately like you think you can.

Anyone who says "deadly move" is automatically an idiot in the martial arts. There is a VERY good reason for this. Because you are all idiots.

I'll take my hardened body and a shin kick over every single "deadly move" you know.

[allinthemix10]

@ACLogikel A finger jab is what I learned when I studied JKD. Sucker punches happen all the time.

[ACLogikel]

@allinthemix10 Right, because you're so accurate at hitting you are really going to be able to spear hand someones eyes. And sucker punches? A sucker punch means you hit the guy without him knowing what's going on, you sir are not a martial artist if you rely on sucker punching. You're just a jack ass.

[allinthemix10]

@lazy702622 Sport fighting is a watering down of a style.

[allinthemix10]

@brooklynmonk1 There are plenty of self defense schools all over the world that teach deadly moves. You are in the sport mode not the self defense one. What is so hard to understand between the two. I practice sport fighting and self defense, the difference is that in the street you can do anything to survive like: spear hand to the eyes, groin strikes, hair pulling, sucker punch or kick, stand up choke outs, back strikes and knees to the face on the ground.

[brooklynmonk1]

@JoeyT80 Od Phou Thoung would kill Jason Chambers in a Khmer Boxing fight. Jason knows MMA and he has a descent kick for an MMA guy, but probably even a mid-rank khmer boxer would shut him down.