Conservative Defends Obama: Find Out Who & Why?

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[AppleKnowsBest]

before bush clinton had a surplus of $559 billion

[normalais]

he needs more support from the people. he can't get this shit passed if righties are out there yelling and screaming all day long and noone bothers to stand up to them and let them hear it

[byouno93]

@quinndiesel1977 Dysfunctional? It's only logic and basic economics. Scarce resources are why everything has a cost. By giving the government more, you are leaving the citizen with less and less. It only appears "dysfunctional" to some because they've been jaded into believing into a deteriorating system that's been in place for their entire lives. I could name countless reasons why our current system has no hope but I only have some 10 characters remaining.

[byouno93]

@quinndiesel1977 Sorry I had to shorten my comment, ran out of room. Liberal in today's worldview. It's a Keynesian type bill. Government intervention, spending for the sake of economic protection is most definitely part of the liberal ideology. The consequences were bad, it is one reason why the deficit is so bad.

And yes. Just bring them home. Simple shit.

[quinndiesel1977]

@byouno93 A very "liberal" bill? What does that even mean? It had bipartisan support. TARP had serious consequences, many of them good. "Obama still has troops abroad..." of course he does. Did you think he was going to throw unicorn sprinkles on the first day and wisp them all home like Peter Pan?

[quinndiesel1977]

@byouno93 That is absolutely retarded. Everything can own assets. The government owns gold. Every piece of military hardware is an asset with value. The national parks are stewarded by the government. That is an asset. This Mises/Paul nonsense is a completely dysfunctional world view.

[byouno93]

Deficit? But the government should not own anything. By saying our country is in a deficit is saying that something which should not own something, has spent something, which it does not own. The only way it can pay for this is by taking away from the citizens. Higher taxes lead to surpluses. Is this a good thing? Not necessarily. It's less money for the citizens to have. Ideally you want a system close to a break even with minimal inflation.

[byouno93]

@quinndiesel1977 TARP was a very liberal bill that had serious consequences in 2008. Bush warmongered his way in the middle east and put into effect the terrible Patriot act. Obama however still has the troops abroad and is proposing even more infringing acts. Question is, "how do you define 'liberal'?"

[Lukeor]

@AppleKnowsBest A surplus in the budget, but an increase in the debt.

That's like saying "Oh, my bank account is in the green, but my credit cards are all maxed out"

[SgtLeroy2609]

Yes. Less revenue is what you initially get when you cut taxes. But eventually, you increase revenue as the tax cuts help businesses create more jobs. And you can't completely count out spending. If you are making less money than you are spending, then you still need to control spending. Example: A dual-income family has one member lose their job. They continue spending like they are dual-income. What do you think will happen? You can't spend money that you predict you will have.

[quinndiesel1977]

not sure if anyone mentioned this, but you are confusing billions and trillions. Don't worry, its only a factor of 1000.

[quinndiesel1977]

Bush the liberal? You have got to drunk, or suffering from asphyxiation? Or perhaps you just have no fucking clue what it means to be "liberal" or "conservative." Maybe you should ask Rush, or Conservapedia.