The Son of Man in Daniel 7
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RaSh"Y and Metsoodat David on Daniel 7:13 both state that is in reference to the Messiah. The same is also a Zoharic position (cf. B'resheet, 145B). So the belief that the verse is referring to the Messiah is firmly within normative Orthodox Judaism.
AbuKhamrAlMaseeHee 2 months ago
what about in verse 14 "He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him" The only being worthy of worship is God. If the "son of man" refers to a nation, why would people be worshiping a nation?
miles6760 3 months ago
@DangerousTalk
English is a language where it is possible to be vague. "Grow up Jewish" can mean that you had much education or next to nothing. There are plenty of angels, and they are not fictional. You just do not understand what an angel is. And you are not able to read the text other than as a flat, literal text.
If I told you that gravity exists, as a force of nature, you would not have a problem with that; but if I use the word "angel" for the exact same thing, you disagree with me.
72Yonatan 9 months ago
@72Yonatan I grew up Jewish.
DangerousTalk 9 months ago
@DangerousTalk
The Book of Job is a fictional account, according to the Rambam, but the book of Daniel is a record of his dreams and spiritual experiences. I will not argue with you about the existence of angels, as that is your personal opinion. I can only sigh that you had to be exposed to such imaginative theology in your childhood, which defies logic and which a sensible person might reject. But our Jewish understanding of the text is very different than what you may have heard before.
72Yonatan 9 months ago
That's pretty interesting. I will certainly bring that up when Christians use Daniel as a prophecy for Jesus. But personally, I don't believe the missionary or the angel. The Missionaries obviously don't know what they are talking about and the angel is fictional.
DangerousTalk 9 months ago