Ted Haggard cons Oprah
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Religion will bring the end of human kind.
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The burden of proof is on those who make a claim. There is no evidence to suggest that a God exists - if there was, it wouldn't be called faith.
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@2thes213 You poor sad man. In a sense I feel sorry for you (And others like you). People could slap you in the face with the evidence, and you will always deny it. You are too far gone to even look outside your Chrisitan world. Even when events like Ted Haggard happen, you will have some Chrisitans still following him, so it doesn't mattter what is said to people like you. If you want to believe it I don't care - just don't preach that shit to kids, as enough people have been deluded with it.
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Ted may or may not be truly contrite about his past sins, but none of us can know, let alone judge. Certainly not those of you who embrace sin and feel like they're well positioned to judge those who struggle with sin.
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@2thes213 what do you know about the facts? Are you a particularly smart person? Are you particularly perceptive at discerning truth from large amounts of data? Is this a skill you have that from seeing all the data you have concluded that God must be real? Or are you also just "parrot"ing what some pastor has told you? The smartest people in the world are 99% not Christian and of the 1% that are they are NOT evangelical.
If God exists he is NOT the biblical one!
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@2thes213 HOW EXACTLY DOES THAT PROVE THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD? sorry, caps lock on there. you jump from deception to saying the bible is the word of god. funny... the bible is not the only source of readings that talk about deception... "the god delusion"..."god is not great"..."the end of faith"..."quantum"..."the believing brain"..."loose canon"... hmmm. fucking god loving idiots- i hope i will live long enough to see the plague of religion rid from this world...im 19, and fear i wont.
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@PleasePonderThis He had a relapse and he has been cured of gayness. What can he do except for apologize?
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see how easily lies comes out of his mouth truly he is a man of god.
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I don't want to seem judgemental on people's faces, but ...
Ted Haggards' (face) really seems ( IMO ) to be somewhat dubious ( that induces doubt and distrust ... to some extent ).
Sometimes people can tell other people's intentions by the "facial presence" [Something more than mere facial expressions.]
At least that's what my judgement and perception of the world based on what I experienced tells me.
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Use the "some gods are dead because the cultures that created them -- or, if religious folk prefer, the cultures they the gods created -- are also dead" argument. Bait for trolling, but who cares ?! Have fun. Life is short.
There are \ were thousands of other gods among many other cultures.
Any one god among those could be the right one. "Gotta believe them all" ( using a pun on pokemon's " gotta catch them all" ).
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The man is just a man and that pisses people off because they think Christians are perfect and divine and full of God. This shows what they are full of. Imagine, no heaven, no hell, no sin, just you knowing you have to be compassionate towards other people without need for being threatened with eternal damnation, there, now you are no longer an Abrahamic religion follower.
Yeah, I would submit, if you are the lover of philosophy and science that you claim to be you must be a lier. You simply can't study science and philosophy in 2009 be truthful with the facts and come to the conclusion that God is not real. Now you can parrot what others say, not really study for your self and think you sound smart, but in the end, yes, the burden of proof will be on you. You're not being honest with yourself, youtube dorks aside, seek truth, not your next ad hominem arguement
2thes213 2 years ago
2thes213, please define what you mean by god. If you mean some force in the universe, then who knows, you could be right. But if you mean the nonsensical gods described in the Bible and Koran then you are wrong. Science refutes such gods. The universe is 14 billion years old, not 6,000 years old! Evolution is real. Nothing fails like prayer. Please read some science books.
PleasePonderThis 2 years ago
2thes213, you have it backwards. You can not be a scientist in 2009 and believe in that the world is 6,000 years old. The evidence for a 14 billion year old universe is overwhelming. Biology, biochemistry, paleontology, molecular biology, and genetics all confirm that the true age of our planet. The truth is that the Bible is a collection of ancient nonsense. All of my scientist friends agree with this. Of course, you are free to believe whatever you want.
PleasePonderThis 2 years ago
Haggard: " I'd preach in my church about nasty fags and evil drugs! Then I'd go out and have gay sex and use crystal meth. LOL! But, hey, we're all sinners. And best of all, I'm SAVED! So I'm gonna live forever! "
PleasePonderThis 2 years ago
Whats to ponder. You are lost in sin just as Ted. Funny thing about deception... It's really deceiving. It's not just something the bible talks about, it's another proof that the bible is the word of God. The bible also talks about false prophets and degenarate mockers like you. Ponder this. You will stand before God and give an account for all you have done and without the Blood of Jesus to cover your sin, you will find what you believe, it not true. Believe it or not.....
2thes213 2 years ago
2thes213 please tell me you don't really believe all that ancient nonsense about burning in hell if you pick the wrong god! Friend, a billion Muslims are quite sure that YOU will burn in hell. But don't worry, they are just as wrong as you are. The Bible and the Koran are both ancient fairy tales. Have you actually read your Bible? Talking snakes? LOL! Please read some science and philosophy books. Wake up. This is 2009, not 1009.
PleasePonderThis 2 years ago