The anti-capitalist anarchist in all of us p.2

To see part 1 click here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWkhlxX3xUs

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[asdfgasdfasdful]

The question is a textbook logical fallacy...

[mr1001nights]

haha, nah, it's what people do everyday; mostly without knowing about it, as this video shows

[crud4]

@asdfgasdfasdful As for 4- again, capitalists despise direct democracy because it would marginalize their authority. Of course we have a representative system under capitalism. One in which each representative represents the interests of concentrated wealth. You should watch "Century of Self" by Adam Curtis. Has any people ever voted to drop nuclear bombs on other people? Nope. That was a result of your precious American plutocracy.

[Nameless9635]

no one wants to give the power but everyone saying no have already given the power lol. this videos proves we r sheeple.

[crud4]

@asdfgasdfasdful As for 5. There has never been a free market. If anything is impossible it is capitalism without a state. How will the elite minority subjugate the masses without a state? They cant. Private property, rent and interest cannot exist without a state. If anything is impossible it is your Rothbardian fantasy land of "free markets".

[crud4]

@asdfgasdfasdful as for 2- 3 workplace direct democracy and general equality go hand in hand. Of course bourgeois economists and thinkers will say general equality is impossible. I bet you're a fan of the Bell Curve. Are you not aware anarchist societies have existed only to be destroyed by fascists? The thought of it probably makes your nipples hard. Collectivist democracy has existed. As Francisco Franco how to end it.

[crud4]

@asdfgasdfasdful petty insults? did you or did you not try to say Camus was against worker democracy? As for 1- I spoke of the coercive nature of private ownership of the means of production not the emergence of private property although it (private property) has always been a matter of exuding the masses from equal sustenance at the benefit of a minority. From feudal lords ruling over serfs to capitalists ruling over workers. Theft from the masses forces them/us into the property owners system.

[asdfgasdfasdful]

@crud4

I like how you've reduced yourself to petty insults in your avoidance of any actual argument about (1) the emergence of private property, (2) the economic feasibility of equalitarian firms, (3) the logical impossibility of collectivist democracy, (4) the practical problems of majoritarian voting (interest groups etc.), (5) the economic superiority of free markets on a macro (>150) scale due to the calculation and incentive problems inherent in a priori human organization, etc.

[asdfgasdfasdful]

@crud4

Camus supported anti-state voluntary syndicalists just as he supported anti-state voluntary individualist anarchists (eg Bonnot Gang). He also supported the United States in its opposition to the Soviet Union. By your logic, he was in favor of American nationalism. Anyway, he was not opposed to individually voluntary syndics. I am not opposed to individually voluntary syndicalist corporations or communes or anything else. I argue they are drastically less economically efficient.

[crud4]

@asdfgasdfasdful I also suggest you read "George Orwell and Albert Camus: A Comparative Study – Their Views and Dilemmas in the Politics of the 1930s and 40s". Saying Camus was against anarcho syndicalism is like saying Orwell was a capitalist because he wrote 1984! LOL

[crud4]

@asdfgasdfasdful And you should know why Sartre turned down the noble prize. Because it's a burgeosis stamp of approval. Of course the bourgeoisie have been against democracy since day one. It would undermine their AUTHORITY and privilege. Fuck you're ignorant.

[crud4]

@asdfgasdfasdful You just made an ass of yourself. I smell pseudo intellectual through my PC monitor.