Crass Do They Owe Us A Living

A different version of this song that I never saw on youtube.

Category:

Music

Tags:

• Crass
• Peace
• Anarchy
• Punk

[nymetsrock]

i love crass, but all anarchy results in is the rich getting richer, and everyone else serving under their control

[killerklown91]

@nymetsrock How do you believe for that to be so? I don't mean to attack your views, but they seemed a bit vague.

[nymetsrock]

@killerklown91 @killerklown91 i think about it this way, if wall street bankers could scam all of us (america) under current law, imagine what they could do without any regulations, the rich, who have all the power, would buy out all the schools, shopping marts, police forces, and everything and force us to obey them in order to use them, let alone the propaganda they would spread, look at the countries with no govt, all shitty, plus why do you think the tea party wants to minimize govt size?

[killerklown91]

@nymetsrock That's actually a very good point.However, if that if that were the case.People would be able to make the choice themselves whether or not to succumb to power.Protesters aren't allowed to fight back now. Without any rules though, this would essentially be the wild west all over again.People would be able to rightfully defend themselves by any means necessary.

[nymetsrock]

@killerklown91 Even if all of the americas became anarchist societies that doesnt mean the rest of the world is, and the rich have friends around the world who could easily drop in police forces to keep people "at bay"

[killerklown91]

@nymetsrock That's a given. It doesn't have to be Anarchism though. Be it any political background, I don't think people would allow themselves to be squandered. Anybody willing to take a stand against a corrupt government can come from anywhere.

[hippiehippiehoorah1]

Is there an album that this is on that i can buy? this version is a million times better than the other

[pidza21]

@nymetsrock I don't thikn crass ever embodied any political view. Anarchy in its utopian view is a dream seemingly unreachable. As far as the programs being shut down...this is drastic way of thinking. Think of Free Energy TEchnology and if this gets applied....our types of governments will become useless.

[DJMischkonsum]

@nymetsrock i think it'd be better if you'd take a look at both communism & anarchism and then realize that the difference between the two is, that marxian communism should end in anarchy (removal of the gov), but he thought, that the gov. should be in the hands of the communist party first, which represents the will of the workers and then after the removal of private property the government should slowely be removed - that's marx' big mistake and thats why the IAA split up ;)

[nymetsrock]

@DJMischkonsum no actually, anarchy is no government, at all, and communism is total government control, capitalism is leaning more towards anarchy as there is less govt control, an socialism, the other middle ground, leaning towards communism. Anarchy is far, far away from communism, if communism is your ideal then you better take a look at what anarchy is, which is NO government, you may so the end result would be similar but i heavily disagree

[DJMischkonsum]

@DJMischkonsum aaah here is the one i was looking for: politicalcompass . org/germany2005

[DJMischkonsum]

@nymetsrock nah, anarchy is basically non-authoritarian communism. communism is a form of "economy", the opposite would be capitalism. both party-communism & anarchy are communist, but party-communism is authoritarian and anarchy isnt. i really like the political compass, where you can see left-right (they renamed this from communism-capitalism, dont know why) and authoritarian-libertarian: politicalcompass . org/euchart

[nymetsrock]

@DJMischkonsum anarchy and communism are literally total opposites

[DJMischkonsum]

@nymetsrock anarchy means communism, not capitalism ;)

[stupidgenious1]

@nymetsrock "CONTROL"!!!!!!!!! Control?!?! Fuck you you bitch. I dont care what the context is but any kind of..... "control" is ....well...stick it up your ass and "control" yourself and not others.

[stupidgenious1]

Just a thought...If during total Anarchy...dont you think the first thing that will occure would be people banning together for safety/support and forming mini governments ...therefore where is the Anachary.....And ALWAYS FUCK AUTHORITY!

[stupidgenious1]

I'm the president of an Anarchist group. Looking for a vice president and some generals. Must be able to follow and obey strickt rules.

[MrGelibob]

@nymetsrock Er no that's not how anarchy works, think your getting it mixed up with capitalism.