Opus 20 Modern Masterworks: John Cage - Part 1

World's greatest troll. You will be missed, sir.

i believe that music is like divinity: either you believe in it or you don't. Form, logic, standards, harmony or empathy are all subjective. To each it's own music so please don't try to impose your definition of music on other people.

although i am an acute atheist, i believe music is the way to understand life and in that matter, the hipothesis of deity...

forgive me, but could you please expound on that first part? It sounds like you are in analytical conflict. "formal structures" are ideas. composing is way of expressing them so that u and i may pick them up.

And logic is a means of going from one true statement to another. if u wind up being ignorant, then logic has not been used. a pretentious idea is not a logical one.

so the purpose is to forsake pattern and formalism. Negate any form of communication and/or feeling offered by sounds. He seems to say that the orderly procession of sounds into something pleasing to the mind is merely a futile form of control. But if it is innately pleasing to do so, why question things put into pattern? play a soothing tune to a baby and it will sleep, play new york traffic and it will cry. Despite my skepticism tho, the man does seem to be onto something. Enlighten me pls.

i think the idea is just that sounds themselves have worth independent of music. like, by creating music we impose our psychology on it but by refusing to do that sound is freed to be a purely aesthetic experience, to in a sense be what it is. i don't think it was to say that creating music is futile, just that that was not what cage was interested in doing or hearing.

respekt jonh MASTER cage!

"chance captured'

and then put in a cage of composition! An interesting marriage!

see SSulycqZH-U&feature=related
he said there that "music is the production of sounds"

Well, a fine docu.

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