Conversation with John Piper and John Macarthur part 1

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[mapleleaf100]

09:32 "i think that's gonna end up on youtube"

and it did, haha.

[grantedimustbeinsane]

hahaha i think thats gonna be on youtube lol

[AfTrolle]

@MrBeautifulba1 Dedicated monks are to be admired whatever tradition they follow. But theirs is an inward mission. The mission of preachers and spiritual teachers is external, it is wholly dedicated to others. To help them find in their everyday lives what monks and nuns find in endless years of poverty, solitude and prayer. It is an act of compassion, of wishing the best possible life for every single human. Which is one of the few real commands that Christ left for the faithful (mark 16:15)

[MrBeautifulba1]

@theembracedofgod WHEN?!

[theembracedofgod]

@MrBeautifulba1 WHAT?!

[MrBeautifulba1]

@skaha77 Well that's the problem. The shoalin monk's "false god" seems to be more empowering and humble than the "god" of the wealthy preachers. Actions speak louder than words. I see how shaolin monks live and train. Dedicating themselves to the practice of awareness, peace and the martial arts with an incredible amount of passion and discipline. I look at the wealthy preachers and all I see are guys in nice suits, " talking." Shaolin monks are a better example of Christ in my opinion.

[skaha77]

@MrBeautifulba1 There is only one way to Heaven. I won't say anything against monks, or for them except that they are committed to a false god. As for their trustworthiness, I am unable to comment on that as I have done no research.. just like you are unable to truly 'judge' Christian preachers.

[skaha77]

@MrBeautifulba1 OK. In China, very few of the Christians wear suits. They are underground. I won't wear jeans to church. I believe that is disrespectable. No tie. Just a blazer and solid colored shirt. That said, nobody gives a hoot what I wear; unless I am naked in a restaurant

[MrBeautifulba1]

@bigearsbill Our "nakedness" and "sinfulness" is also something that we have been conditioned to accept as reality. But I hear you. Good points.

[MrBeautifulba1]

@skaha77 You're missing my point. We've been conditioned by our society to accept the suit and tie as a symbol of status. We've lost ourselves to materialism. So much so that the christian church is just as concerned about appearances as is the "lost" or secular world. No one really enjoys wearing a suit and tie. Just like no one really likes being forced into a reality where we have to get a job that we really don't want to go to. Life could be alot more fun without all of the pretentious b.s.