Medieval Wrestling

Medieval wrestling from the Polish group Ringschule Wroclaw - http://ringschule.org

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• martial
• arts
• medieval
• wrestling

[teslic100]

I love martial arts that have alot of stand up wrestling. Though, in the Balkans the street fights often resemble crude kickboxing matches. They often hit in the groin and use impliments such as a chair or rocks. Though I do not know if Europe likes wrestling over striking. This might be true in the North, due to the climate. This wrestling system is wonderful.

[cerkuenik]

@teslic100 interesting, why the climate would interfere in their choice for wrestling over striking?

[Railstarfish]

@cerkuenik One possibility is that a lot of wrestling martial arts included wrestling partially to deal with battlefield realities of armour and weapons. Hotter climates where armour is less practical might have less grappling and more striking.

[cerkuenik]

@Railstarfish I totally agree! it´s hard to punch and kick armour :)

[MrFrinkham]

Hi cerkuenik, your channel says you're from Brazil. Are you living in Poland? When I go back to Wroclaw, I'll check these guys out.

[cerkuenik]

@MrFrinkham Ya, I'm from and live in Brazil, I uploaded this video but I have nothing to do with their school. I hope very soon I can lean with them in Poland!

[TheLoki7281]

@ussrwrestling ah thx :)

[Railstarfish]

@ussrwrestling A quick search is not finding what you claim. What it does find is more high kicks than in many other martial arts with battlefield roots.

If your point is hot climates used wrestling too, then the answer is "Of course." Since punches/kicks are less practical when you have a sword or spear. But your argument as stated relies on the strawman that a cold climate is the only reason anyone might use wrestling at all.

[ussrwrestling]

@Railstarfish In Ancient Greek - wrestling/ground-fighting was predominant technique! Also, the Greeks favoured their wrestling styles over the Ancient Greek boxing!

[Railstarfish]

@ussrwrestling Feel better for trolling a 5 month old comment? Nice strawman. Wrestling was popular everywhere, but look at Pankration and tell me how little striking is used, tell me about the complete absence of kicks.

[ussrwrestling]

@Theseus1000 >beause of the movies since 70-s, like in the rest of the world the idea of stand up superiority >crept in.

I agree! Up till 1970s "kung-fu movies" craze - most of Europe favoured grappling/wrestling over strking! In Balkans as well. There're strong wrestling traditions in Bulgaria, Serbia, Macedonia, Greece, etc, including various folk-wrestling styles.

[ussrwrestling]

@TheLoki7281 Wroclaw used to be a part of German kingdoms for centuries! There's even German name for Wroclaw - Breslau

[ussrwrestling]

@Railstarfish Ha-ha!! That's why all sorts of wrestling were/are so popular in such "cold" countries as Ancient Greece, Iran, Turkey, Bulgaria, India, etc! :-))

[kaindrg]

@teslic100 italians favored grappling too but even in both german and italian schools different masters incluede striking as well as part of the "wrestling" application. if u look cross culturally some may teach striking and wrestlign seperately butthey all apply it with out favor to one or the other as its suppose to be applied as a singular like in tradtional kenjutsus schools and bujinkan jujitsu and taijitsu when applied dont look like seprate arts like MMA does with grappling and striking

[Theseus1000]

@cerkuenik No thats wrong, fights in balkans resemble "crude kickboxing" matches beause of the movies since 70-s, like in the rest of the world the idea of stand up superiority crept in. Otherwise, there is traditional Serbian wrestling for example and other Balkan nations have wrestled in the past as well. If you don't belive me read some Serbian epic poems for proof.

[Altonahk]

@cerkuenik Clothing could be part of it. If you are wearing a lot of furs or bulky layers of wool, because it's cold, striking becomes less effective. This kind or wrestling could work despite clothing. This kind of grappling is also more effective against a man in armor then some of the more subtle grappling of later Jujutsu (post civil war jujutsu was less about martial combat and more about self-defense, so it didn't take armor into account) or the striking of dirty-boxing, karate, etc.