Nazarene Emergent Church Plant

This video was presented at a Nazarene District Assembly as a promo for a post-modern emergent church plant that is being planted through the combined efforts of the Mid Atlantic Nazarene District and a non denominational church in Maryland.
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• Nazarene
• Emergent
• Church
• Plant

[4858mf]

It's interesting looking at the response of several EC members/pastors. They all have basically the same response. Seriously, read them. "Don't you have something better to do than?" C'mon. Take a really good look at guys like McClarren. The word "Smart Idiot" comes to mind. Very smart, but a wolf in sheeps clothing. I am more than concerned, I frankly am worried. I was hoping that the EC was more than this "cultish" type of movement. I was wrong.

[jfdiggs]

I think I answered your questions pretty directly. I gave you the Nazarene article of faith on scripture which I absolutely affirm. And I affirmed what Jesus said in John 14:6. Both of these was an answer to your question.

I am not hiding anything. you know my real name. However, I have no idea about who 4858mf is and what he is really trying to get at?

You talk of wolves in sheep's clothing- yet you come to me in disguise.

[4858mf]

Pastor Diggs, Some questions for you. Is the Bible the inerrant, infallible word of God? Is there one way to God, Jesus Christ? I am a new minister in the Church and your answers are important.

[jfdiggs]

I believe in the plenary (which means full) inspiration of the Holy Scriptures, by which we understand the 66 books of the Old and New Testaments, given by divine inspiration, inerrantly revealing the will of God concerning us in all things necessary to our salvation.

[jfdiggs]

And, yes I believe Jesus when he said as recorded in John 14:6, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

[norqvader]

this is like listening to my kids bicker. I wil say, Pastor Diggs, be careful about what facets of the emergent movement you hold to...contextualization must be tempered with Bible-centered theology. I have not been to your church, but if the critics are against jeans in church, or communion(the Lord's table) they have no clue what emergent is. Keep Jesus the focus, and best wishes on the Church plant.

[jfdiggs]

Thank you norqvader.

[holinesspentecostal]

True Holiness is not "culturally" relevent. It has always been diametrically opposed to most cultures! How culturally relevent was Paul's message? How about John the Baptist? If these men would have followed this ideology they would have never lost their lives in a world that was (and still is) hostile to the true message of the Gospel! Wherefore come out from among them and BE YE SEPERATE...! (2Cor. 6:17)

[holinesspentecostal]

@jsmyers57 These are the "scholars" who Paul describe as..... "having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof"...... "ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth" (2 Tim. 3:5-7)

Thank God I have fully known Paul's "doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience, persecutions, afflictions,......" 2 Tim. 3:10 (not Rick's, Joel's or Billy's)

[holinesspentecostal]

@jsmyers57 I wouldn't read any commentary from anyone symapthetic with the EC crowd. I don't consider the Rick Warrens of the world "Biblical Scholars". They are exactly what Jude, Peter, Paul, and Jesus describe as...... "Well without water".... "Clouds that hold no rain".... "promising liberty while they themselves are the servants of corruption".... "holding the truth of God in unrighteousness"..... "twice dead plucked up by the roots"...."lovers of pleasure more than lovers of God"...ect.

[holinesspentecostal]

@jsmyers57 Would you like for me to give you the phone # of a young minister who called me recently disturbed by what he experianced while taking classes to become ordained in the COG? The COG use to be a very conservative holiness pentecostal denomination!

[holinesspentecostal]

@jsmyers57 I can give you several youtube sites which exemplify what the CFR globalist Rick Warren, Joel Osteen, and the EC movement has done to nearly every denomination in the US. This is not just happening in the Nazarene Church. I was raised in the Church of God (Cleveland, TN). Their colleges are now embracing Catholicism and the EC crowd. Their Lee College singers now sing secular rock on youtube. Young ministers are being encouraged to visit monastaries to gain "enlightening" experiances.

[jsmyers57]

@holinesspentecostal I will also argue your point about lack of knowledge of scripture. First of all you speak in generalities but there is no proof to back it up. I personally know many pastors as well as professors at several of our denominational schools and our seminary who would be tagged as at least sympathetic to the movement who also happen to be our topic biblical scholars and it is evident in the fact that they are currently all writing our new commentary series.

[jsmyers57]

@holinesspentecostal I would like to point out you have given one example, be it actual or something you have made up to prove a point. You must understand there is no definition of the Emergent Church. It is not an established organization. You can not lump one example from one church who put a label of Emergent on themselves and assume this is what the heart of the "movement" is about and how every single church and every person in those churches feels, believe, acts, etc.

[holinesspentecostal]

@jsmyers57 When you challenge the EC movement, you find out just how much "love" they really have. When their women get on the platform in their tight pants and hot shorts gyrating the the beat of "Sweet Home Alabama" on a Sunday Morning.........I wouldn't feel any love in that atmosphere....ONLY LUST! Sadly, most EC lovers don't know the difference. Biblical scholarship is not one of their strong points. After all, they can't muddy the cesspool with too much doctrine!

[holinesspentecostal]

@jsmyers57 You will never understand the full scope of God's divine character if you never get beyond Love. The devil will love you to death all the way to hell if that's all it takes to be God. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. We shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ and give an account for every idle word (Matt.12:36) and every deed done in this body (Rom. 2:5-6)! By the way, I'm still waiting for some examples! 

[holinesspentecostal]

@jsmyers57 You did....... by quoting 1 Cor. 9:11 to justify the "some principals of this movement".

[jsmyers57]

@holinesspentecostal you know, you are entitled to your opinions, I just have a hard time seeing through your words your love of people as Christ taught us, I see a lot of fear and judgment, which is sad. God Bless you and I will leave it at that.