RESONANCE OF THE CELL

Hello, this is a test to see if there are really some differences with a tuned cell.
You can see the cut that i made in the left tube(outer and inner tube), tuned up the PWM to the same frequency and let it go

the spacing of the tubes is approx 3mm

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• HHO
• HYDROGEN
• MEYER
• STANLEY
• PWM
• HYDROXY
• RESONANCE

[francobizz]

After that i just tuned the pwm frequency to the same of the tubes

and what you see in the video is the result.

I must say that the accuracy of the microphone and the software

aren't excellent but i tried.

Thank you and keep up your HHO projects.

Bye

[francobizz]

Just For Info: The resonance i am speaking about is the acoustic frequency of the tubes.

I explain, if you hit a suspended tube with a metallic object,

the tube will vibrate at its resonance frequecy.

TO measure the freq i hitted the tube near a microphone connected to a frequency scanner

software (Zelscope), and i got the frequency, then i did the same with the inner tube and

i cutted out a rectangular piece of tube to match frequencies.

[valveman12]

How do you know you are at resonance? I see no inductor in your circuit and you current is way to high to achieve resonance. If you were at resonance, your current would be very low/under 1 amp. You need inductacne and capacitance to achieve resonance. The cap is you cell. If you measure the capacitance in solution, pick a freq and calcualte the inductance in parallel you need to achieve resonance.

[francobizz]

Yes, you are right, the resonance i am speaking about is the acoustic resonance and not the electric resonance.

[dreamyear]

do u know where i can buy Stan Meyer pulse generator?

i can build the fuelcell but i'm familiar with electric circuit.

[francobizz]

I am sorry, but i don't know if anyone sells the complete meyer circuit, however, i suggest you to try to build the pulse system, it is very simple trust me, i say this because buying a pulse system from someone will be quite expensive cause it takes a few hours to make it.

Bye

[lieberman70]

This is it!

1. Replace the uplevel-Trafo in Stans diagram by an Oilheater trafo, or welding trafo!

2. The high Voltage will cause the Condensator like setup of the tubes to collapse causing a spark.

3. The 2 coils around the condensator cause the system to swing at resonance. Ie. the spark in the tube is swinging with a freq causing noise at a multiply freq.of the tubes. Select a setup causing between 1 and 2 Mhz!

4. Tune the snd tunable coil to see max effects. Et voila. But Dangerous!

[evolivid]

if you encase the electrodes in a thin layer of glass then they wont corrode

[lieberman70]

Hmmm. I have to correct a few things. The guys from svpvril showed that the keelies magical mistery machine did not work based on helmholtz resonators (but they can be found on some of his spheres (which used 8 harmonic resonators, not 6)) But that the bulbs were Valves and a low Hz waterwave generator acting as a pump. The High frequencies were generated by water hamer effect of quick closing valves. Hmm. Interesting! (And electrolitifiers are called electrodes. Sorry:-) ) End of Monologue! :-)

[lieberman70]

Means now you just need a tiny bit of energy in your frequency generator at resonance frequency of your Circuit (not Water) to electrolitify the water.

This is the way to go.

Otherwise ask an old Radio Amateur to help you by borrowing his amplifier to tune up some welding piezo's (cheap) at 40Khz and 1000W. Place them face to face in a glass of water and see what happens. Wear a mask! And use ear protection. You may not hear it, but it can cause damage!

[lieberman70]

The Voltage will be around 4 times higher!

Stan meyer used this gain to optimize his electrolyse process in terms of power use. The electrolytifiers as the condensator.

However doing this the regular way there is a phase shift of 90 deg from the freq.generator to the resonating circle. And another shift back. So the freq.generator must be stabilised. That's where you loose the gains again. Stan used a transformer with one open end to get shifts of 180 degs to equal out this problem.

[lieberman70]

To be honoust. To investigate this I think will cost too much.

There is another interesting path to go. Stan meyer's electrolyse Process.

His secret is not in the water. Or how to use resonance in water to optimize the electrolyse.

His secret is in the set up of the circuit.

Did you ever drive a pendulum? The movements in your hand (the driver) are far less then that of the pendulum.

Connect a condensator and a coil in series. Drive it in resonance and measure the voltage over thecoil

[lieberman70]

Like the piano. He used pipes though. Cb Eb and Gb (Bchord) gave him the best results. He didn't use electricity. Don't know which octave. Did you notice that when you hold c and f and trigger the c you will hear another c in a higher octave? Did you notice that when you select C F in a higher octave the amount of octaves between the C you trigger and the other C you hear becomes bigger in numbers? I think that's how Keely managed to trigger frequencies far beyond hearing on/in his sphere.

[dmgcat]

Lieberman, You mean like a chord on a guitar or piano? Also, what kind of voltage , frequency, amps?

[lieberman70]

Sorry, I meant. Helmholtz Resonators. Not Holtzmann resonators.

[lieberman70]

With your version with the open pipe I am not sure it is really standing. But moving freely with a vertically direction.

Could be that it does the trick as well.

There was a posting on the internet where a guy used a quarz tube. He was succesfull with 700W.

Could be though that the swinging of the quarz had an essential meaning. Don't know. It needs a lot of experimenting before finding the right solution. Keeley blew a million dollars before he found the right setup.