L.RON HUBBARD LEGACY TO MAN by marcotai
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@PiotrThePrimate Correction: "at no stage in development does a human acquire a cognitive organ that records all experiences".
Refer to Dennett's TED lectures for an accessible account of human cognition and percerption. Hubbard is completely wrong regarding the "reactive mind" -- there is no such organ or function. Humans don't have an indelible record of all experience extending back to conception. Humans don't even have an indelible and complete record of all experiences in the last 60s.
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@TheNewAeon2012 'what i was saying in the comment was that i wasn't one of those that bought the same thing all over again because i was "told to". ' So you are saying that you are bringing "the same thing all over again" of your own volition? If you had even a cursory understanding of 20th century cognitive psychology and neuroscience you would know that the Hubbards conception of the mind is entirely wrong. There is at least 50 years of results that directly contradict the core ideas of Di.
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The evidence that has been gathered in neuroscience since CoS was founded actually contradicts Hubbards conception of the human mind. There is no such organ that has the properties of the "reactive mind". There is no organ that has an indelible memory of all things since conception. Memory is pre-linguistic until well after birth and at no stage in development does a human acquire a cognitive organ that records all memories. Refer to Dennet's TED lecture on consciousness.
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...In other words you don't have anything of evidentiary value to bring to the table. Nothing. Item (2) implicitly concedes that you have absolutely no evidence nor even a sound theoretical justification. You literally have nothing other than a hope that in around 10 years something magical will happen. CoS has been around for almost 50 years and no confirmational evidence regarding has appeared so what do you expect to happen in 10 years? Is that when Hubbard will return triumphant?....
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@TheNewAeon2012 I don't think you can see anything regarding the CoS clearly. You were entirely wrong about my background so I can't see in what manner you saw "thru" me. Observe that you haven't actually offered anything substantive in defense of Dianetics and other CoS "tech". Your position comes down to two things: (1) report of first-person subjective experience; (2) a hope that sometime in the future there will exist objective evidence of the validity of CoS "tech".
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@PiotrThePrimate ok, we'll c who's gullible in about 10 years, when ppl like u will be the "minority" at that point. u'll see it happen. i can c it happening as clearly as i saw thru u from reading yr first comment. btw, what i was saying in the comment was that i wasn't one of those that bought the same thing all over again because i was "told to". i very much doubt i would've done that. anyway, the point is the stuff is worth its weight in gold.
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@TheNewAeon2012 Don't brag about giving the Co$ your money. Doing so just shows that you are gulllible. You are boasting about getting fucked in the ass by Miscavige.
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@TheNewAeon2012 Yes indeed all conscious experience is subjective but (a) subjectivity can be investigated objectively; (b) it does not imply that there is no objective existence; and (c) it doesn't imply that no distinction can be made between objective reality and subjective experience. You appear totally confused on (a), (b) and (c). You are also confusing inter-subjective experience (i.e. subjective experience shared by more than one person) and objective reality.
Hubbard's legacy to his fellow men is paranoia, insanity, exploitation, misanthropy, delusion, lies and hypocrisy.
PiotrThePrimate 6 months ago 9
LRH was a liar and a conman,g00gle XENU to get the facts
OTpowerz 3 months ago 4