The Second Vatican Council

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[TenderTrap86]

There is no "The Church hasn't done that since Vatican II".

You are still required to abstain from meat every, single Friday, unless some other penetential act is performed. According to Vatican II, there should still be masses in Latin. According to Vatican II, only priests should distribute Holy Communion to the faithful. Vatican II called for the priests to preserve their duties and read the scripture verses themselves. Vatican II called for an increase of praying the rosary and novenas.

[MrJohnnySharp]

We do not deny there have been corrupt popes and priests. God there has indeed. However, as catholics, we understand that God will not allow the Dogma and morals of the Church to change. The holy spirit does not allow a pope to suddenly decide abortion is ok, or gay marriage. Even if the evil pope wants it, tough. God does not allow the moral teachings to change at all. He keeps it all the same. even when priests are corrupt and immoral, they shall be judged, but the church will live.

[mrh3tic]

@TenderTrap86 really, i have to an exam on this by thursday, and you ahve confused me, any essays explaining the proof for what you said?

[katdanmo]

Well I have couple of university degrees ad I speak few languages, what about you? DO you know how to read the bible? I do not think so!YOu are also blind on top of that with the caseof amnesia!

[bacabu30]

What is the relevance of talking about 'Protestant Bibles'? The King James Bible is no different except slightly simplified language. Protestants don't reinvent their own Bible. Except for Jehovah Witnesses.

[katdanmo]

Yes there have been ma made churches because of our dear friends the Protestants who were the first pioneers to reinvente their own bible and others started to invente their own cults and bibles following Protestant but Roman Cathlic has the only true original bible. The Vaticna is the biggest museum of Christianity in the entire world! Peter>Petros the Rock!

[MrJohnnySharp]

Well good, then I can have the last say.

If you don't like apologists like me, then stop instigating arguments. And what is wrong with ME defending myself? YOu say you do it, whey can't I? Sounds like a double standard to me.

[bacabu30]

Finally, I'm fully aware you're brain-washed and I'm not trying to change your opinion at all. I don't give a hoot if you don't even believe me. I just stand up for myself and stand my ground when apologists like you come along spouting their arrogance. Cheerio now! I won't be replying to you again!!

[MrJohnnySharp]

Like I did say already, celebacy is NOT dogma, meaning it is NOT believed to be inspired by God. The church changes on the human aspect. YOu would have to be Catholic to understand. The crusades would be acceptable today believe it or not, because the church believes in a Just war, the crusades was to stop the muslims from slaughtering all the christians, which any history lesson will teach you.

[bacabu30]

If you think celibacy is a good idea, that's your opinion. But maybe that's one reason (and I have heard some priests agreeing with this) that the horrendous child abuse happened. There have also been priests who fathered illegitimate children and even priests who impregnated nuns in Africa who then had to go on to have abortions. That is totally wrong and all because the RC Church is rather hypocritical and even evil. I think it's very UNNATURAL to expect a man to have to be celibate.