Inside Story - Global food crisis - 03 Jun 08 - Part 1

800 hundred million people are starving, It's Beginning To Be A Problem... That is so cold fucken hearted, I can only hope I don't ever get to that point..., Cold Fucken Hearted!!!

Look get over the petty insults. I get it we're all noobs and pwned and bull shit like that. Do you live there? You are saying enduring culture is worth starvation? Would you have children right now if you lived there?

most of the people there were born into poverty and will likely die in poverty. they know they aren't going to go on to do great things or become leaders. the have kids to give meaning to their lives and hope that their child will somehow go on to live a happy life, one that they never had. living isn't living if you don't have a reason to live. and what gives someone more than enough reason to live than a child.

That's a commendable ambition, but the child ends up 1) Dies 2) Lives a life of poverty and hunger. Who's pleasures are we really fulfulling? The parent's desires to "be somthing" or the child's desires to "live". This is where I question the parent's motives. It seems like a selfish equation given the risks the child faces.

It is a bit selfish, but everyone wants to be remembered for something. plus your forgetting one option which is highly unlikely but still possible which is that the child could make it, they could escape a life of poverty and that's enough incentive for them to have a kid. wanting to continue one's blood line is part of human nature.

I could agree with you there. Maybe one child will crack the shell of poverty. Is it worth it on such a national scale of the country? How much misery for a handful of refugees to "tell their tale". Until people admit the land cannot suppor them, then there will always be a "food crisis". Why don't we put a bunch of people on the moon and say there's an "oxygen crisis" that foreign aid must send them oxygen and show on TV people suffocating. You know what I mean?

Yeah I know what you mean, but it is still their home. why do you think people who have there house destroyed multiple times by landslides or earthquakes don't just move.

I don't know?? Maybe they are too poor to move. They have no transportation, food to travel with or a country willing to harbor them. So they sit and die. I think that's understandable. But the kids man, why have the kids!?!? It just makes no sense to me. There has to be an equilibrium. If all the aid stopped, nature would show them that equilibrium. But we continue the aid and they have more kids. Seems like the blind leading the blind.

you don't see where I'm coming from because you're taking the cold calculated approach. with all things considered, except human nature, then yes it is stupid for them to have kids considering the type of lives they have but people, most of them, want to continue their name and pass something on. conservation is just as important as preservation.

Okay. Seems we've pretty much arrive at a conclusion. Having kids is human nature like a species. But the circumstances make it stupid. Should we blame them for being human or for being stupid? Should the world aid their stupidity or aid their human nature? Where do we draw the line?? At which point do we say, no we won't aid you - you guys are being stupid!