David Starkey on Henry VIII "Tudor Obama"

Henry VIII: Mind Of A Tyrant begins Mon 6 April 2009, Channel 4, 9PM.

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[Counterrevolutionite]

Henry VIII was elected just because he was black?

[11december2008]

Yes Henry was mixed race like Obama.

[11december2008]

@mckfrr Starkey isn't saying Henry VIII is like Obama, he says he is the "Tudor Obama". Work it out.

[pianor91]

"Tudor Obama" How on God's green Earth can someone compare a giant of history to an overhyped yank?! The only reason Obama is - falsely- deemed some sort of Christ figure, is because he is black. He is not great, never will be. Henry VIII shits on that Obama.

[disamjisa]

@pianor91 The metaphor is about the circumstances of their accession; both men were deemed to come to power as great reformers, a break with the past, a liberal "prince" who would undo the evils of past years (in Henry's case, his father, in Obama's, President Bush)

[disamjisa]

@mckfrr Oh ffs, you clearly understand nothing of 16th century England. There is such a thing known as a metaphor. Look it up, try to understand it; you might profit by the experience.

[thisiswho2]

Well at least, Michelle doesn't get called Flanders Mare or is ordered to have her head chopped off.

[leemorethomas]

@kendahke heaven? No. History can only be quoted and misquoted. Not heaven, which look we "forward" to.

[FriedEggsandChips]

@11december2008 Hear hear. Typical YouTube commenter over-reacting again.

[kendahke]

@pianor91 no one does that except the haters. you might want to go talk to them about it.

[kendahke]

@SistaSol it helps when you've read Dr. Starkey's books and have attended his lectures.  His writing is heaven.

[kendahke]

I see what he's saying. He's basically talking about all of the hope that was on both of their shoulders as they assumed their roles. That's it. At best, Obama's going to have 8 years in elected office. Henry had +35 years and had an absolute monarchy. Huge difference because of the time that isn't afforded Obama, age 47, as was afforded Henry, taking the throne at the age of 18.

[kellyistrying]

I think he is comparing the hype of Henry and the beginning of his reign to the hype of Obama and his election to office. People were excited and hopeful(mind you not all) when they went to positions of leadership.

[SistaSol]

@viperswhip - It's sad that you and these others stand out because you're among the few that somehow managed to get it.