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I once played "connect 4" with a psychopath (nice chap). The problem with psychopaths, put simply, is they can't tell right from wrong. They are often: charismatic; highly manipulative and egocentric; but appear to think of the world only from their point of view. So if they kill you by accident or design it doesn't matter.
Apart from the connect 4 bit; I think this pretty much describes the Bush government, in particulary Cheney.
The justice minister for Scotland is Kenny McAskill.
He consulted with the victims families and the governments of UK, Libya, USA and Scotland before making his decision.
Your electioneering senators said nothing then or anything until their elections came up.; then they started to make demands. Demands on a sovereign country to hold an enquiry on their soil; a conceit on their part.
The duplicity by the USA and UK was exposed, the incompetence of the CIA too. Morally bankrupt, the lot.
It was you who brought up the words of the former justice minister. An example of an individual with a vested interest. Typical of the sort of key witness USA provides; at least you are consistant. USA nearly supported the Nazi's. It was a loan, not friendship.
You again seek to divert the discussion by referring to the two world wars, which USA joined late ( pushed into the second by the Japanese). It shows either a weak argument ; weakness of mind or both, on your part.
I'm talking about the 1996 sanctions and you are quite incorrect about them only being relaxed. Again you are factually incorrect about Karol Sikora, this was one of 3 doctors appointed by Libya; the release of the prisoner was not based on Sikoras findings although they agreed with Frasiers diagnosis.
The release of the prisoner was a decision made by McAskill. It was within the legislation of compassionate release in accordance with our laws and customs. Of that there is no doubt.
@irres Oh, and one more thing: if we are "fair weather friends" then you have no friends at all. Who has been a better friend to the UK than the US? Three bailouts in three massive wars (WW1, 2, and Cold, since I know you have forgotten.)
@irresistablejewel Sanctions were already in place in Iran since 1979, so that's not relevant. In terms of Libya, sanctions were placed on his dictatorship around 1986 with the Berlin disco bombings, along with air strikes against him.
The sanctions were NOT removed. Perhaps eased a little, but sanctions remained on Libya until at least 2003. Megrahi was just a sacrificial lamb then?
Funny that you spend far more time disputing the Justice Minister's credibility than Kaddafi's...
I don't see what the Lockerbie had to do with Gadaffi.
I believe London/CIA/Bush/Blair have some explaining to do. They won't though; they have shown this by blocking the release of communications with the Scottish government. The CIA had eventually to disclose what they were suppressing and they were shown to be mad or bad.
Shame on them!
So you. Stop wasting my time with your opinions. You a fascinated by one man and are missing the bigger picture.
@TheLoyalOfficer Re: Fairweather-friends
I once played "connect 4" with a psychopath (nice chap). The problem with psychopaths, put simply, is they can't tell right from wrong. They are often: charismatic; highly manipulative and egocentric; but appear to think of the world only from their point of view. So if they kill you by accident or design it doesn't matter.
Apart from the connect 4 bit; I think this pretty much describes the Bush government, in particulary Cheney.
We lock ours up.
irresistablejewel 8 months ago
The justice minister for Scotland is Kenny McAskill.
He consulted with the victims families and the governments of UK, Libya, USA and Scotland before making his decision.
Your electioneering senators said nothing then or anything until their elections came up.; then they started to make demands. Demands on a sovereign country to hold an enquiry on their soil; a conceit on their part.
The duplicity by the USA and UK was exposed, the incompetence of the CIA too. Morally bankrupt, the lot.
irresistablejewel 8 months ago
It was you who brought up the words of the former justice minister. An example of an individual with a vested interest. Typical of the sort of key witness USA provides; at least you are consistant. USA nearly supported the Nazi's. It was a loan, not friendship.
You again seek to divert the discussion by referring to the two world wars, which USA joined late ( pushed into the second by the Japanese). It shows either a weak argument ; weakness of mind or both, on your part.
irresistablejewel 8 months ago
I'm talking about the 1996 sanctions and you are quite incorrect about them only being relaxed. Again you are factually incorrect about Karol Sikora, this was one of 3 doctors appointed by Libya; the release of the prisoner was not based on Sikoras findings although they agreed with Frasiers diagnosis.
The release of the prisoner was a decision made by McAskill. It was within the legislation of compassionate release in accordance with our laws and customs. Of that there is no doubt.
irresistablejewel 8 months ago
@irres Oh, and one more thing: if we are "fair weather friends" then you have no friends at all. Who has been a better friend to the UK than the US? Three bailouts in three massive wars (WW1, 2, and Cold, since I know you have forgotten.)
Tell the truth already!
TheLoyalOfficer 8 months ago
@irres Also, the doctor's name is Karol Sikora and has since expressed some regrets about his "diagnosis"...
Check out the Daily Telegraph from 20 Feb 2010. "Almost impossible that he lives beyond 2 years..."
"No deterioration of his health [in his luxury villa.]"
I guess we have a medical MIRACLE on our hands here, eh?
What a JOKE. Talk about a con...
TheLoyalOfficer 8 months ago
@irres The release was not a piece of legislation. It was an act by the "Justice" Minister MacAssFill.
The prisoner transfer agreement could have been blocked, and was, but that's different.
TheLoyalOfficer 8 months ago
@irresistablejewel Sanctions were already in place in Iran since 1979, so that's not relevant. In terms of Libya, sanctions were placed on his dictatorship around 1986 with the Berlin disco bombings, along with air strikes against him.
The sanctions were NOT removed. Perhaps eased a little, but sanctions remained on Libya until at least 2003. Megrahi was just a sacrificial lamb then?
Funny that you spend far more time disputing the Justice Minister's credibility than Kaddafi's...
TheLoyalOfficer 8 months ago
I don't see what the Lockerbie had to do with Gadaffi.
I believe London/CIA/Bush/Blair have some explaining to do. They won't though; they have shown this by blocking the release of communications with the Scottish government. The CIA had eventually to disclose what they were suppressing and they were shown to be mad or bad.
Shame on them!
So you. Stop wasting my time with your opinions. You a fascinated by one man and are missing the bigger picture.
USA won't con us again!
irresistablejewel 8 months ago
The former justice minister just happens to be the leader of “the rebels”.
Good grief!. It costs him nothing to say “lets you (UN) and him (Gadaffi) fight”.
If Gadaffi goes, who will lead Libya? Probably him.
(no need to pay him a £1million, he will say what you want for nothing)
So I would dispute his credibilty; he loses everything if Gadaffi remains.
He is a usurper, saying what the USA want to hear; to get to power.
I would go further. He is a liar.
irresistablejewel 8 months ago