The dangers of open theism theology

Open theism is the belief that God did not ordain everything, and must wait to see the outcome. It also suggests God has gaps in His knowledge, and can be surprised. This video examines and debunks it from a Biblical point of view

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Education

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• open theism
• moral government theology
• predestination
• calvinism
• arminianism

[DanPrinMan]

@CBALLEN

My reply was entirely to lengthy. I will send it as a message. You opened up a can of worms mentioning Proverbs 16.

[DanPrinMan]

@colinb890

I'm glad you've been open minded about it. I can agree that it has put a lot of things at rest for me as well.

[CBALLEN]

@CBALLEN 2Peter 3 :9 is a perfect example of Arminian misunderstanding.Peter tells us that the Lord is being patience with us or you ,not wanting any of us or you to perish ,meaning believers alone,it means those in that time and also all believers of the future.Why would God be waiting on goats to come to Christ when God has already known before time that they aren't the elect that He chose to save?

[CBALLEN]

proverb 16:4The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil

This one vs(of course there are others too,)makes it clear,God makes what He make for specific purposes,He made the wicked for the day of evil and all who follow the beast will do so because their names weren't put into the Lamb's book of Life before time began Rev 13:8 and 17:8.God knew those HE would save before creation and those who wouldn't saved,So God did make a group exclusively for hell.

[CBALLEN]

@DanPrinMan God does know the end from the beginning and everything in between.God does everything for His Glory alone,men's salvation is done by Him alone to glorify Himself.

[DanPrinMan]

@timthemartin

You'd like David Basinger.

[DanPrinMan]

@fractalfires

Ha, you will find those kinds of verses ALL through scripture! It's inescapable. The thing is that when classical theists approach texts like this they've already made up their mind that God cannot change his mind and that he must know all things exhaustively. But anyone can see that when you approach ANYTHING with your mind already made up about it, you're bound to be unfair in your judgement, and here, your interpretation.

He can throw "Sola Scriptura" out the door at this point

[DanPrinMan]

@CBALLEN

I would contend that the premise of your comment is not biblical, but rather admittedly philosophical. There is nothing harmful about it unless it contradicts scripture.

Assuming he is like an author of a book is to already assume he knows the end.

On the side: not all "authors" (as the example suggests) know the end of their story from the beginning.

What's different here is that God is intimately involved with the very outworking of the plot, being fully omnipotent in his activity.

[DanPrinMan]

@fractalfires

Couldn't agree more.

[CBALLEN]

@fractalfires God is like the producer,writer & director of a movie,He has the whole movie in His mind and He directs the cast to preform exactly as the movie should be,there's no improvising in God's production either.Open Theism is just one more excuse for man to not believe in the God of the Bible.