Proportional Representation

for those trying to understand what its all about.

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[rhysepoos]

@luvpole69 Labour are the ones gerrymandering, they were doing it ever since they got into power in 1997. That's how they got a majority with just 35% of the vote in 2005.

[rsolgtp]

@luvpole69 if you decide to draw the lines with 200. you seem to just look for the worst scenario. the exceptions making the rules.

[rsolgtp]

@musicalidea you are damn right i want to champion the current, and move it along. if you sit by the sidelines shouting about how unfair it all is. nature will move on without you. i dont favour any ideology, its name spells out its flaw. you think you know whats right? then rule! if you want the world to be a better place then take it over and change it. thats the only way. watch what sort of resistance pops up. ideology is faith and dogma. whether for or against a god.

[rsolgtp]

@luvpole69 its incredulous to me that changing a way of counting votes requires a complete overhaul of the "entire political system" im feeling the hyperbole button needs to be pressed on that one.

yes everyone knows about Blair and his "vetting" he made labour more conservative than the conservatives.

PR has many different ways to be used and abused just like this current voting system. the idea was to give it a go. if the Scots can manage it.......

[musicalidea]

@Crossplat4m If you agree that systematic forms of property relations are invalid in the governance of men, then you reject all governments currently in existence -- as do I (with maybe 2 exceptions)! Yet saying that all systems have their problems & therefore we shouldn't advocate any is tantamount to championing the current, extremely corrupt, and well-defined one that fosters oligopoly. LLCs are a 19th C invention w/ only 200 years of vague precedence be4 that. Now we take it as natural law.

[musicalidea]

@luvpole69 In case you haven't noticed, the traitorous imposters that rule "Labour" abandoned people who labour in the early 1990s. Now they're just a step away from the Tories, with a bit more fanfare - and only on rare occasion - for the working class maj. They should get rid of parliamentary districts entirely & just have 1 district in which PR is the scheme. Either way, until PR is adopted - w or w/o districts - commonwealth states + the US will continue to serve under manufactured consent.

[Crossplat4m]

@musicalidea you are inheriting an old and worn out idea passed around by kids in a school yard. believe me. ive not taken anyone's word for it for about 34 years. if there was a system id know about it by now. all these isms are stamped one size fits all solutions hoping to homogenize the world. yes i know. its not difficult to spot. however, in the past 6000 years of recorded civilisation, never has the world been at one or in peace or will be. that's not systemic that's nature. gits exist.

[musicalidea]

@luvpole69 Yes, and PR is the way to change it, buffoon.

[musicalidea]

@rsolgtp WRONG - you should blame the game rather the the individual players. The game itself produces the outcomes, not the marbles, which change every year with a new color or stripe to delude everyone into thinking there is dynamism and progress. Workers should have both a say at work and also receive the value of what they produce - not some asshole with an entitlement to their work called a major shareholder. Not Capitalism, Not Socialism, but Syndicalism is the answer, my friend.

[musicalidea]

@luvpole69 Ruling middle class voter? Try Ruling Class Oligopolist hegemons...The Tories couldn't give a rat's ass about the middle class - and neither could the traitors who have taken over New Labour. Proportional is the way to restore....Fight hard for it while you can - here in the US we're about as far from fair as slaves in the antebellum south.