Gibbs Can't Name Countries Where Single-Payer System Works

Robert Gibbs Can't Name Countries Where Single-Payer System Works

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• healthcare
• single payer

[dgray72]

This butt-clown had no idea what he was talking about. He named "three" that were provided from the parrot-press corp. Once again, transparency=ignorance. Typical obama stooge. Let's keep pushing universal healthcare, though. It's what "enlightened" europe has...

[Miredninja]

I can't stand this prick.

[rpottage]

@mixmastermeeks And contrary to what you seem to believe, limitation is not the sole form of regulation. You regulate less, which is why patent law is so widely conformitory. We regulate more, which allows the increased production of generic drugs sooner by regulating the industry to be more specific for the industry.

Seriously; you're like the guy who says his country regulates more because they allow more lead in their glass.

[rpottage]

@mixmastermeeks To quote "There are no barriers under the Canada Health Act to private clinics". Seriously, stop making shit up. You're either making stuff up, or you're listening to ignorant BS from somebody who is reading illiterate and doesn't understand that the Equal accessibility tenets in the Act refer to the public funding of private hospitals that allow out-of-pocket payment for servicesl; not whether the clinic can provide the services, which it can.

[mixmastermeeks]

@rpottage And I think you need to study up on economics and Canada. You didn't even know that it is illegal for clinics to provide services paid for by the Canadian Health Care Act. And that obviously those clinics exist because there are people in canada not happy with the state ran health care. And that my government's FDAA restricts (regulates) the selling of generic drugs and your doesn't restrict (regulate) their selling.

[mixmastermeeks]

@rpottage I agree you have far more regulations than America. But it simply isn't true that your drug companies have more regulations. I'm sorry but that is a fact. Are FDAA will not approve generic drugs. Period. It isn't because the evil corporations want to keep people on the drug longer. That doesn't even make sense. The name brand and generic drugs do the same thing, one just costs more.

[rpottage]

@mixmastermeeks No, that's the opposit of what I said. You do have fewer regulations. The reason you have fewer generic drugs is because the companies are able to combine their drugs to keep patents longer. Got two drugs with the patents about to expire? Combine them together and you extend the patent on both.

You really should study up on economics and Canada. We have far more regulation than the U.S. on most things, especially healthcare; and buying in bulk allows you to control prices.

[mixmastermeeks]

@rpottage Um...you just basically said the same thing I did. We haveonly a few major drug companies because of gov regulations that limit competition. We have fewer generic drugs because we have gov regulations that limit competition. And the provinces running hospitals has nothing to do with the cost of drugs. And you are crazy if you think canada has MORE regulations on drugs and than America. And even more crazy if you think that is why they are cheaper. You have to be willfully blind.

[rpottage]

@mixmastermeeks That's not even close to being true. Meds are more expensive in the U.S. because you have multiple seperate hospitals buying in small quantities from a couple major companies giving them very little price control. Canada, on the other hand, has it's provinces run the public hospitals giving them major clout. In addition we have more generic brand drugs and we have a board that puts a cap on the price companies can charge. That's more regulation in Canada which reduces cost.

[mixmastermeeks]

@rpottage And Americans jump the border for meds for the same reason Canadians jump the border for care......because our government "regulates" the drug industry. This creates a monopoly for some drug companies and bureaucrats keep perfectly safe drugs from being sold, causing a rise in the price of their equals that are already sold.

[mixmastermeeks]

@rpottage It is illegal in Canada for any clinic to charge for services paid for by the Canadian Health Care Act. So if you have a clinic and it provides those services for a charge it is ILLEGAL. Yet there are more than 70 of these clinics in British Columbia alone (la times, murphy, 2009) Many Canadians come down to the US to receive treatment because of the long wait. At least in my country I am (for now) still free to choose to pay for a surgery so I won't have to wait.

[rpottage]

@mixmastermeeks No, they're not illegal; that's just a blatant lie. And they exist because of the extras. Because people with money often like to have a room to themselves fully decked out with extra nurses and doctors there at the drop of a pin, as well as the works entertainment wise as opposed to sharing a room at a public hospital with a small corner t.v. with a few channels. The same reason why resteraunts work well at $20 a meal, but we still have a market for those at over $1000 per meal.