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The Holt Bill is a Poison Pill

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Mark Crispin Miller tells us why we should say NO to HR811 the Holt Bill.

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  • Very good post. Secrecy is evil. Too many bad/unjust laws are passed simply because they were slipped into this bill or that. We need simple straightforward laws, answers to our questions and politicians need to be held accountable. This nation is screwed. However, I will contact my reps and insist that we do not pass this Holt Bill at all. It is FULL of RADICAL-SOCIALIST laws that BASH our liberties. Holt is a maniac and should be thrown out of office. God, NJ people drinking the" Koolaid"?

  • That is ok this was snuck into the stimulus package. we are screwed

  • No cheaters! Yaya!

  • right on! no secret vote counting!

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  • --Dennis Kucinich took away his co-sponsorship of the Holt bill after it came out of Committee badly flawed.

    --Passing the present Holt Bill will validate secret vote counts and produce only "sales receipt" paper trails.

    --The only solution, the totally cost-free one, is to eliminate the touch-screen machines in their entirety.

  • "HR811 requires voter-verified paper ballots, not "receipts" + e-voting machines" No. Unfortunately, that's what it says, but it's not what it does, by any means. Only "receipts" are required. An electronic vote is cast and counted on a DRE and can never be verified by any human being. That's with or without a "paper trail" as required by Holt.

  • That's correct. And if there are any questions (as there should be, no matter what), we at least will know that there is a voter verified paper BALLOT for every vote cast. Not possible with a DRE.

  • That's correct. And if there are any questions (as there should be, no matter what), we at least will know that there is a voter verified paper BALLOT for every vote cast. Not possible with a DRE.

  • Foilhatter - Wish you knew what you were talking about. The meltdown will be worse than ever in '08 if HR 811 passes. But more insidiously, you may or may not know it.

    If you're willing to give your vote away to unverifiable secret vote counting with electronic ballots, it's only your democracy your throwing away.

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