Healthcare is NOT a human right. It is precisely THESE LIES that have gotten human civilization into trouble over the course of history. You can NOT provide a right to one person by STEALING property and liberty from ANOTHER person.
@tothemax01 They were preventable deaths that wouldn't have happened in any other 1st world country. I am done talking with you. You are never going to convince me you are right and I am never going to convince you that you I am. This conversation is over.
@Scootertuner1000 And what proportion of those died not because they couldn't get treatment, but because they couldn't get --enough-- treatment. There is only so much medicine around, and the highest the level of medicine the shorter the supply. For some people, the cost to keep them alive (now that it is possible) is thus epic. So the question is, if your neighbor could live if you gave him $10,000, would you do it? How about $100,000? Everything you own?
@Scootertuner1000 But don't you see, what is the government in this case? It is a big thief. And do you know what they say? 'We are redistributing an unfair concentration of wealth, for the good of the country as a whole'. And you don't really believe that it would be OK to take a whites farm off him and give it to a black, so long as the latter 'knows how to run it' do you? That is the only basis of law - people have rights, and no one, many and powerful, or few and weak, has the right to steal
@tothemax01 My version of buy in is not what percentage you pay compared to what someone else pays. It is buy in to a civilized society, without that buy in, we have no civilization.
@tothemax01 What if you were born in the country to a poor family, never had the means to get out of the country? It isn't always about choice. Those rather long pieces of dust are actually roads too and are subject to the same insurance laws. The only place that is not is private property,
no one owes you shit
TheAndron55 2 weeks ago
The US has a govt because it was accepted by the people, not because they were forced into it. voluntary =/= force; govt mandate =force
puckerupamerica 2 weeks ago
@FreeTheNation That already happened. It's how nation states form and why the USA has a government at all.
Scootertuner1000 1 year ago
@Scootertuner1000 -
Healthcare is NOT a human right. It is precisely THESE LIES that have gotten human civilization into trouble over the course of history. You can NOT provide a right to one person by STEALING property and liberty from ANOTHER person.
FreeTheNation 1 year ago
@tothemax01 They were preventable deaths that wouldn't have happened in any other 1st world country. I am done talking with you. You are never going to convince me you are right and I am never going to convince you that you I am. This conversation is over.
Scootertuner1000 1 year ago
@Scootertuner1000 And what proportion of those died not because they couldn't get treatment, but because they couldn't get --enough-- treatment. There is only so much medicine around, and the highest the level of medicine the shorter the supply. For some people, the cost to keep them alive (now that it is possible) is thus epic. So the question is, if your neighbor could live if you gave him $10,000, would you do it? How about $100,000? Everything you own?
tothemax01 1 year ago
@Scootertuner1000 But don't you see, what is the government in this case? It is a big thief. And do you know what they say? 'We are redistributing an unfair concentration of wealth, for the good of the country as a whole'. And you don't really believe that it would be OK to take a whites farm off him and give it to a black, so long as the latter 'knows how to run it' do you? That is the only basis of law - people have rights, and no one, many and powerful, or few and weak, has the right to steal
tothemax01 1 year ago
@Scootertuner1000 What does that actually mean? Can I buy another 100 units 'civilization' if I want to?
tothemax01 1 year ago
@tothemax01 My version of buy in is not what percentage you pay compared to what someone else pays. It is buy in to a civilized society, without that buy in, we have no civilization.
Scootertuner1000 1 year ago
@tothemax01 What if you were born in the country to a poor family, never had the means to get out of the country? It isn't always about choice. Those rather long pieces of dust are actually roads too and are subject to the same insurance laws. The only place that is not is private property,
Scootertuner1000 1 year ago