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IKIGANIRO SON EXCELLENCE PRÉSIDENT HABYARIMANA YAGIRANYE N ABANYAMAKURU KU KIBAZO CY AMASHYAKA N IMPUNZI1992

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  • @MegaKingleo1 About Kagame, it can take even a month debating about that, but the bottom line is that many Westerners or Amnesty International don’t really get the whole picture about Kagame. We Rwandan refugees know Kagame better than any body else, and there will never be another genocide even after 30 years. Yes Kagame was among the highest officers, but was NOT among the first chosen to lead. For many reason though, it came down to him, and he’s performing well in that capacity.

  • @MegaKingleo1 Rwandan sense of superiority is even different in its sense, from the universal sense and use. We Rwandans use it for our own benefits. For instance, we use to control our kids in the sense that they avoid bad behaviors for not being called inferior and that had helped us more than you can imagine. It has become like a tool to use in controlling or motivation. I don’t know how can I put it out for you to understand it the same way we do, but it’s not disrespectful to others.

  • @MegaKingleo1 I knew from the beginning that we’ll finally reach a middle ground. Even if we still don’t see things the way about Kagame, I believe that we’ll agree on many facts. About Rwanda and Africa, believe me when I tell you that it’s frustrating and has nothing to do with colonial powers. I did many travelling around this globe and we need to accept openly our failures, may be we can learn from them. 

  • @kirundo1 The serious disagreement we had is that you do not want to put Rwanda in the global and african context, treating it as an island that is immune to external influence and above all refusing to see the various phases that post colonial africa has undergone and the impact it had on local policies and politics. That's where we disagreed. well, i guess i need some bed. got to work

  • @kirundo1 the problem i had with you in your narrative is that you viewed Rwandan as superior to other african, it went further, from my opinion, you branded a whole ethnic group as incompetent. Then it degenerated to a point where you say one thing and later you blame others using the same concept you were denouncing.

  • @kirundo1 I do understand your point of view. It is hard to live in a foreign land as a refugee, it is hard to be robbed, denied and deprived ones identity, right of return, it is wrong to be deprived the right of citizenship. yes, i do feel you. And i totally agree with a people when they rise up to demand their basic right and that's exactly what you did.

  • @MegaKingleo1 Now you see, our destruction could have been prevented without even the foreign help or intervention, but here we are, no winner but loser. I don’t have to read that from a White person and I don’t see how can we relate all that to White people? You and I can agree on things that are of mutual benefits without abandoning our ways of life. Two Hutu presidents were enough to have prevented that destruction. That’s where my argument is

  • @MegaKingleo1 During all that time, the pressure was mounting among Rwandan refugees who thought that senior officers in Ugandan Army don’t want to go back because they got good life. But that was social frustration based on typical civilian assumptions. Habyarimana was not really extremist but was too weak to confront the extremist Hutu elements in his entourage, especially from his wife’s corner. The rest in two sides agreeing in disagreeing, and all of us paid heavy price.

  • @MegaKingleo1 We, I mean Rwandan refugees, tried to go back to Rwanda peacefully because it was in our best interests since we had had many successes in our host countries, like Uganda, Congo, Burundi and elsewhere. Habyarimana himself is the one who pinned highest military ranks on the shoulder of the late RPF commandant Fred Rwigema, in Uganda. Habyarimana met all high ranking Ugandans of Rwandan origin, and they asked him politely in Military tradition to facilitate that repatriation.

  • @kirundo1 i understand your frustration, i have been there, it is disappointig to have leaders without a vision, But i was ticked of when you tended to raise rwanda to an other status while putting down every other african. the other thing is when your tendancy to view hutus as incompetent as if they were any different from their contemporaries when they were on power.

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