Guiliani - September Criminal or 911 hero? - 4

PS I no longer support Ron Paul nor Alex Jones. They are also establishment and Ron Paul is a freemason. Look into it.

What did Giuliani do that so outraged the firefighter's and their families, that they would still hold such a grudge against him 5 years later? One cannot understand the source of this contention unless one has done some real and difficult research into the events of that day. "In November 2001, our members were continuing the painful, but necessary, task of searching Ground Zero for the remains of our fallen brothers and the thousands of innocent citizens that were killed, because precious few of those who died in the terrorist attacks had been recovered at that point. Prior to November 2001, 101 bodies or remains of fire fighters had been recovered. And those on the horrible pile at Ground Zero believed they had just found a spot in the rubble where they would find countless more that could be given proper burial. Nevertheless, Giuliani, with the full support of his Fire Commissioner Thomas Von Essen, decided on November 2, 2001, to sharply reduce the number of those who could search for remains at any one time. There had been as many as 300 fire fighters at a time involved in search and recovery, but Giuliani cut that number to no more than 25 who could be there at once.

In conjunction with the cut in fire fighters allowed to search, Giuliani also made a conscious decision to institute a "scoop-and-dump" operation to expedite the clean-up of Ground Zero in lieu of the more time-consuming, but respectful, process of removing debris piece by piece in hope of uncovering more remains. Mayor Giuliani's actions meant that fire fighters and citizens who perished would either remain buried at Ground Zero forever, with no closure for families, or be removed like garbage and deposited at the Fresh Kills Landfill. .when hundreds of family members of the fallen joined with our affiliate leadership and members to protest Giuliani's decision, he ordered senior officers of the New York Police Department to arrest 15 of our FDNY brothers, including a number of local elected IAFF leaders."

Here is where the mainstream falls short in their reporting: Why would Giuliani all of a sudden forcefully remove Firefighter's from 'the pile' and in such a way that resulted in a brawl between the NYPD and the NYFD? What the mainstream press will never dig into or question is: why did Giuliani place more importance on cleaning up "the pile" than in taking a slow-retrieval approach to accessing the bodies of firefighters, police, and emergency workers still trapped in the wreckage of those buildings? Though 2 months later, chances were that no one was still alive, many still clung to the hope, that loved ones would be dug out of the devastation of those destroyed buildings. Families wanted a chance for closure, bodies of their loved ones returned so that they could honor them with a proper memorial and burial. The friends families of the fallen wanted to take their time in dismantling 'the pile', so that the dead would be respected and given opportunity to be reached and yet Giuliani thought it better to begin a rushed quick dismantling of 'ground zero,' completely disregarding his most important constituency when it comes to reinforcing him as the 9/11 hero he has now determined to take his Presidential stance on.

The firefighters believe that the city went to a 'scoop and dump' policy because they were in a rush to retrieve gold. "The fact is that the Mayor's switch to a scoop-and-dump coincided with the final removal of tens of millions of dollars of gold, silver and other assets of the Bank of Nova Scotia that were buried beneath what was once the towers. Once the money was out, Giuliani sided with the developers that opposed a lengthy recovery effort, and ordered the scoop-and-dump operation so they could proceed with redevelopment." With his training as District Attorney for New York, Giuliani knows from his prosecutor days that the first rule of a criminal investigation is in cordoning off a crime scene and preventing the tampering or r

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[CampHazzard]

I like Guiliani. Great manager. Did amazing things for New York prior to 911... but the more I learn, the more this seems likely:

Guiliani + The Patriot Act = Police State

[David777111]

This is why Giuliani wanted the debris cleaned up so fast as not to let anyone check for evidence of demolition. When people want to hide things not everything gets hidden and the lie is exposed. He is in with the PNAC group (Cheney a memeber) that is part of the secrect societies that wanted the New Pearl Harbor to start war.

[brandon420z1]

@charliehorse12345 they found the passport of someone that was hijacking the plane who was on the plane which burned up and it was blown on to the street ...yah right lol lol lol

[LeseMajeste]

9/11 was a FALSE FLAG/INSIDE JOB pulled off by elements of the CIA, the FBI, the Pentagon and the White House and ISRAEL.

[Tmpatntrm]

Look up Loose Change. It's on utube. Fuck u bush n Chaney!I bet 10 years ago New world order didn't expect a black muslim would be president of America today!!!!

[Azoicum]

Why was the twin towers for sale before the attack?

[hackneydemon08]

He knew exectly what was going to happen!

[DrRicoWest]

right but they couldnt find the black boxes of the 2 planes nor the bodies...but paper can withstand "jet fuel" ???

[charliehorse12345]

yet they found the passport of the lead hijacker in the rubble

[911NEWSTWO]

Guiliani sounds like a real prize prick a lot of people over there must really hate him, his day will come !

[rynomacamillion]

I agree Guiliani for 08 and 2012 good point!!!

[Kill121019]

I mourn all those who lost their lives on 9-11, however, many of those who died when the towers collapsed were disintegrated into dust just like everything else that collapsed. People found hands and feet and shoes scattered all over. Now, I'd be more worried about preventing this from happening again.