MSS - Dublin, 5 June - Part 1 - Red underpants, sperm and testes

This show was recorded at the World Atheist Convention on 5 June 2011.

On the panel were:

PZ Myers, author of the science blog site pharyngula.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/

Dr Lone Frank, author and journalist, her latest book - My Beautiful Genome - is available for pre-order here:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/My-Beautiful-Genome-Discovering-Genetic/dp/1851688331...

Aronra - who is built like a tank and comes from Texas

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• magic
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• dublin
• pz
• myers
• lone
• frank
• red
• underpants
• sperm
• testes

[rictusgate]

I watched a debate with Tzortzis in which he used the following argument as proof of the divine nature of the Quran - Scholars consider the Quran to be so aesthetically perfect,; so internally consistent; and of such an unequaled quality that it cannot and can never be imitated by mere mortals - therefore, it must be divine. What a putz - using subjective arguments about aesthetics appeal is not logical nor rational - is Dali divine, Michaelangelo, Van Gogh, Mozart? So stupid.

[HConstantine]

@HConstantine 3) Modern Western Scholarly research indicates that the Koran was compiled by scholars over a period of about 2 centuries after Mohammed's death (not that any Moslem would admit this), so there is no difficulty in hypothesizing a knowledge of late antique Greek learning on the part of the authors of the Koran.

[luccaskunk]

@rictusgate I would say that yes, Salvidore Dali is, in fact, divine. The man was a god of surrealism. The others were divine as well. Van Gogh was a god of impressionism. Michaelangelo was a god of the Renaissance, and Mozart was a god of Classical and Baroque music.

[squirreljester2]

How the hell I have not been subbed to this channel until now?!

[Numinous123]

@rictusgate

Remember that the kind of people who find ignorance reasonable are usually ignorant themselves. Either that, or crazy/brainwashed.

[Numinous123]

@rictusgate

Especially when you add to the fact that parts of the Quran are obviously plagiarized.

[SolDeSaBelle]

(I arrive in the room at 11:22, with the backpack)

[SolDeSaBelle]

@TheMagicSandwichShow

I was there and it was awesome !

I missed the beginning, but all in all it was a great way to end this week end. Afterwards, we (me, AronRa, PZ Simmons and half a dozen others) tried to go find a pub in Dublin that would serve heathens at 11pm on a Sunday night, and pathetically failed, ending up in the hotel we came from in the first place. Then, PZ literally TELEPORTED himself into his room. (meaning, he disappeared without anyone noticing. He was quite tired I guess)

[rictusgate]

@Turandot29 It pretty well sums up many of the "arguments" that theists posit. Many of their arguments - even from celebrated 'faux-intellectual' apologists like WLC are childish and infantile to the extreme. The logic he uses may win over the people in the pews - after all, their world is inhabited with talking snakes & donkeys, virgin births & miracles aplenty . . . the wool is already pulled tightly over their collective heads - and their logic keeps them spinning while we point and laugh

[Turandot29]

You know, rictusgate, this is virtually the same thing that Mormons say about their sacred text, the Book of Mormon. That it's full of accurate military tactics, internally consistent, full of profound truths, describes a bustling civilization of millions on the American continent (which left NO artifacts behind), it could not have been written by a semi-literate farm boy; therefore, it must have a divine origin, etc., ad nauseum. Funny isn't it?

[luccaskunk]

"red underpants" in the title reminds me of the time I spent in the Order of the Golden Dawn before realizing it was all a bunch of bullshit and becoming an atheist. They insist that you have to wear red socks and no shoes inside their temples.

[sirjambo]

How can anyone deny islam is wrong when you know the man in red underpants?

It's the ULTIMATE miracle in islam!