Let Us Pray...

...yeah...let's not and say we did.

A few interesting stories about the religious people injecting their prayer into everyday life even though their Bible tells them to pray in secret...

Category:

Education

Tags:

• king
• Heathen
• prayer
• bible
• christian
• atheist
• atheism

[embalyst]

Yeah, no one should ever try to force anyone to pray. Encourage it? Yes. Force it? No. On the other hand, why would an atheist WANT TO attend a private religious institution. I can't imagine. One question for you. Could you have married a Christian woman? If she was respectful toward you and the two of you loved each other?

[KingHeathen]

@embalyst I DID NOT attend a private religious institution...it was a PUBLIC charity event for a SECULAR charity.

And no, I'm not as intolerant as you are speculating that I might be.

[embalyst]

@KingHeathen So you think you could have married a Christian woman, then?

[KingHeathen]

@embalyst Happens all the time, so I don't see why not. I'm very close friends with many religious people as well. Again, I'm not as intolerant as you seem to be suggesting that I could be. BTW, I can name 20 couples that I know of that are Christian and atheists. The intolerance would ONLY come if the religious person tried to push their beliefs on the non-religious partner. The atheist has no reason to care about it within the relationship otherwise.

[tagthem]

in some other video, you mentioned a crisis of faith when you were yet a Christian. do you mind telling us what that crisis of faith included?

[KingHeathen]

I already did. You didn't pay attention to it. It's way too detailed to put into a text box so rewatch the "How I Became an Atheist" video and don't be so quick to just to assumptions. If you are asking what specific things did I take issue with within Christianity, well...that's what the majority of my videos are about. So look through those to find out.

[infernalone666]

a priest used my grandfather's heart attack as a method for 'bringing him to heaven' to prepare for my grandmother, who died of unforseen heart failure a year later. i almost got royally pissed

another one also called hurricane irene as 'god's will'. so i guess the dead people and thousands of dollars in property damage was his will - just to show us up that our trammels are insignificant

class act! this god is a giant parasitic dick!

[Meraneus]

At our commander's calls and other functions we usually have the chaplain direct a prayer... I usually just stand at attention thru the prayer (since before the prayer is the national anthem so I was at attention to begin with). I figured the respectul thing to do is to stay at attention since the commander hasn't called us at ease yet...

[kick08ful]

I work for a county in S. GA. and we all have to take our hats off and bow while someone blesses our work week with a southern baptist or church of god prayer every monday morning.

[belugafishgod]

Theirs that satanic beer mug again.

[embalyst]

@KingHeathen I wasn't talking about you. I was commenting on the story about your friend "TheClockStrikes13."

[magx01]

Do you feel that a theist asserting that their god exists in conversation with an atheist is arrogant?

If so, okay, I disagree with your conclusion, but it's at least logically consistent. If not, well then you might want to reconsider, since KH's assertion is also his own opinion, but it's just the exact opposite of the theists.

Myself, while I do see where you are coming from (perhaps offensive might be what you meant) I think his usage of the word was warranted, to drive home the point.

[drfoxcourt]

If you don't believe in the existence, then it's imaginary. To many atheists, the Christian version of God is exactly an imaginary friend, nothing less.

While I don't agree with KingHeathen on many issues, I don't see voicing his true opinion as arrogant, because t does not force the issue. A Christian saying they "know God and the power of Jesus therefore you should pray" is forcing, therefore arrogant.

KH is asserting his right of religious/non-religious freedom.

[KingHeathen]

It's no more arrogant than someone telling us to be "respectful" of there imaginary friend...

a bit harsh, sure....but it gets the point across. I typically only use it as a shock factor when someone states their god as if it is fact and therefore requires that I do something at the whim of this character. (Such as the scenario described)

[maryannluvsgod]

I respect your view and kinda agree with you...however, dont you feel its arrogant of any atheist to say the words "your imaginary friend" to a believer of any God?

[JetpackNinjaDinosaur]

I love you for saying that X'D

[jokidder]

I have never understood the christian approach to death. Seems like death of a christian should be celebrated by christians.

Isn't mourning just jealousy that someone beat you to heaven?

So shouldn't mourning be a vice?

It has never made sense to me.

[ludwigmeister]

Nothing. This like math... a one word answer!

[KingHeathen]

I didn't say that to begin with because I didn't automatically think that you were a moron and that perhaps the first statement would have sufficed.

The cost to buy a wife is throughout the Bible....look it up.

[frdmfiter645]

This would have been a lot easier if you said that to begin with..... anyway what's the chapter and verse where it says that?

[KingHeathen]

1-When we went to get married they asked if we wanted a religious ceremony or a CIVIL one...take a guess what we picked.

2-If the two things are the same, then why call them something different?

3-Marriage started as a TRANSFER OF PROPERTY! Not as a religious ceremony. Get your facts straight. Even your Bible acknowledges this. (50 sheckles of silver will buy you a bride) Women were viewed as property. So if you support marriage as a religious institution, then you support women as property

[frdmfiter645]

And also you can have the same financial benefits with a civil union, which is not religious.

[frdmfiter645]

Sure, marriage existed in every culture that didn't read the Bible, but even then, in those cultures, marriage was a religious ceremony binding a man and woman. Marriage is inherently religous.

[KingHeathen]

marriage existed BEFORE the book of Genesis and existed in practically every culture throughout the world that didn't read the Bible...

What makes you think that me making the decision to take advantage of a legal agreement with my wife which benefits me financially means that I'm being hypocritical? Your Bible doesn't have a monopoly on marriage.

[frdmfiter645]

You have a wife? That's pretty hypocritical, with you being an athiest and everything. I mean, the Bible says "Therefore a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife, and they become one flesh." Genesis 2:24. But hey, what do I know?