House Passes Healthcare Reform

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[mfaulkner12]

Did this one have a public option?

[HappyCabbie]

the senate version has a public option but faces a filibuster that must be defeated. If the Senate passes it then it must go to conference commitee to work out the differences. When that happens the public option may disappear.

[FlowerClown]

Somebody here has a God complex.......

You should get into Government, You'll fit right in.

[BattlefieldDoktor]

I've to underline what rewboss said ...

Paying something into a pot and the people who have the damage will get the money ... This is how insurances work ... no matter if it is about a car or health. As long as you don't have a damage then it sounds bad to actually pay for someone else. But once you're having an accident and you can't pay it - or you have to sell your house. At the end it is a question of the price - how much you would have to pay for your safety of health ...

[rewboss]

However, the idea of you paying for me is inherent even in a purely private insurance scheme. The money might not come straight out of your paycheck, but you have to pay it all the same, if you want to be insured. Whether it's tax or private insurance, the end effect is the same: everyone throws something into a pot and those who need to can draw from that pot. The issue is who you can trust to administer the pot properly and fairly.

[rewboss]

I live in Germany. The German model is a sort of halfway house -- it's not completely "socialised", and the system is administered by insurance companies. The 15% is not a "tax", it's the state insurance premium.

And it is horribly expensive. It's the worst of both worlds: we have to pay for a state bureaucracy AND the insurance companies' own bureaucracies. Not all NHC systems are the same, and if the govt is clever, they'll make sure they don't repeat other countries' mistakes.

[HappyCabbie]

I have been doing research on this, but the problem is coming up with responses to your wild allegations such as Germany scrapping their healthcare plan and adopting ours. Now you are suggesting that Senator Reid is giving Senator Mary Landrieu 300 million dollars for her vote.

First it would be illegal to give that much money to a Senator according to campain finance laws so what on earth are you talking about?

[HappyCabbie]

Well after talking with several Germans, something I can do via the internet instead of just reading some random news article. There is no plan to scrap their healthcare and adopt ours.

Now what expert has said that Senator Reid's figures would land the normal person in Prison.

When making claims like this you need to cite evidence.

[FlowerClown]

Thank you for being so negative.

And for being worse at grammar than me. :O)

[DeliriumReal]

that is new to me... since when do they wanna change that (I am from Germany...) would be interesting... do u have any links for me?

[HappyCabbie]

As far as Germany wanting to drop their NHC and adopt our system? Any idea where I can look that up. Maybe I need to ask a few Germans about this.

[HappyCabbie]

Funny I was able to read the house bill just fine. The Senate bill will take a little longer as I hear it is over 2000 pages. I hope to get to that one later this week. That being said, I am on record for not being a fan of the current legislation. For example the Senate version will pass a tax on Health plans that cost more than 8000 bucks. Thus teachers, firefighters, and police officers might get hit with an extra tax. Will finish this up in the next comment