Can we Completely Understand the Trinity?

From Father Barron's "Faith Clips" DVD

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[DrHowbeit]

So trinity not making sense is an argument FOR trinity? Scraping the bottom of the barrel here are we?

[wordonfirevideo]

@DrHowbeit It's one purpose of the language: to block our attempts to manipulate God. But as I explained in teh video, there is also a more positive dimension to Trinitarian discourse.

[wordonfirevideo]

@bayreuth79 No.

[wordonfirevideo]

@MrApostolicdoctrine1 Well, that's what I call a compelling argument!

[revjebates]

"They that seek the Lord understand all things" Proverbs 28:5. Maybe if we quit trying to figure out what Augustine or any other man said and seek the Lord, we wouldn't have to settle for the fable that says "I can never understand".

[wtorrance1]

To egmag, how could anyone refute the wisdom and logic of your intelligent rebuttle. Thanks for responding. God bless.

[quietsparks1]

He can never understand God because right now, he has an image behind him(a cross). Now, what does God say about the use of images in worship? He says images and signs are something detestable to him, God hates images. So how can he understand God, when he cant even understand that God hates images.

[NashvilleKildCountry]

From an apologetic perspective, the trinity is indirectly derived from the ontological argument--that the possibility of a maximal being itself proves the existence of a maximal being. One such property of a maximally great being is being all-loving, and since this being can't love itself (because, strictly speaking, love of the self isn't really love), the being has to exist as multiple persons, but yet is still one being. Not sure how I feel about this, but it's interesting.

[2000defenders]

The Doctrine as Interpreted in Latin Theology:

In the dogma of the Trinity when we affirm that the Father and the Son are alike IDENTICAL with the Divine Essence, we are affirming that the Supreme Infinite Substance is IDENTICAL not with two absolute Entities, but with each of two Relations. The Divine Persons (The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit) are None other than these Relations. A Relation, viewed precisely as such, is not, like quantity or quality, an Intrinsic Perfection.

[2000defenders]

When we affirm again it is Relation of anything, we affirm that it regards something other than itself. The whole Perfection of the Godhead is contained in the One Infinite Divine Essence.

[2000defenders]

In this World origination is in every case due to the effecting of a change. We call the effecting of the change action, and its reception passion. Thus, action and passion are different from the permanent relations consequent on them. But in the Godhead Origination is ETERNAL: it is not the result of Change. Hence the term signifying action denotes not the Production of the Relation, but purely the Relation of the Originator to the Originated.

[2000defenders]

Granted that in the One Infinite Mind, in which the Categories are transcended, there are three Relations which are subsistent realities, and then it will follow that the SAME mind. That Same ONE Mind will have a three-fold Consciousness.