Montage of some of my TCM favorites. Rather rare footage of Hollywood Hotel, Garden of the Moon, Jerry Colonna, Busby Berkeley, Johnnie Davis, gay and gay suggested characters and others.
@michaelfromdc To be fair, there's absolutely nothing funny in a regular guy who likes guys, half of these, if not more , are comedies, and the benchmark of old hollywood was over the top everything. Hel, I'm quite certain some of the examples in this were just supposed to be effeminate straight men, which just fits into the modern stereotyping of homosexual men.
Amazing how this kind of stuff could be "sneaked in", I suppose... Still, anybody back then (I'm talking about the 1930s, not the "Some Like It Hot"era) who might complain could end up being accused of having a dirty mind. Interesting... Have we become so jaded now, that we choose to see what might not even have originally been intended? Hard to say... They had censorship issues to deal with back then, so who knows for sure? And so the debate will go on, I guess...
I have to add that it makes me really angry that in 'the day' gay people were always shown as faggy gay bafoons. Guess the hetros could only accept a gay person if they could laugh at him.
Nice video. Yes - for commercial films sex is a very touchy subject in our puritanical and oppressed society - even today. So the only depiction of "gay" people (especially men) could not be of sexual nature. "Gays" had to be immediately recognized as "effeminate" to make people laugh at them easier and make themselves feel more secure. Even today the "gay" character on "Glee" cannot be seen being sexual with his boyfriend. He's mainly presented as being effeminate and thus "gay".
Some of the images did suggested the effeminate character attitudes of the past toward gay men. but hays code forbid direct knowledge on the screen . but the rest wasn't intentionally suppose to suggest gayness. Remember in shake spear days straight men actors did play female roles
The movie at 5:25 is DANCING LADY with Joan Crawford. The number is actually "That's the Rhythm of the Day" (although here, "'Im Going Shopping with You" from GOLDDIGERS OF 1935 is used as the background music).
Funniest youtube ever!
tracer740 1 week ago
@STORMYB That is johnny davis, a horn player and actor and singer( hooray for hollywood, among other things,) with the big bands in the 40s.
murraymae 1 week ago
WHO IS THE MAN SINGING AT 3:51?
STORMYB 2 weeks ago
@michaelfromdc To be fair, there's absolutely nothing funny in a regular guy who likes guys, half of these, if not more , are comedies, and the benchmark of old hollywood was over the top everything. Hel, I'm quite certain some of the examples in this were just supposed to be effeminate straight men, which just fits into the modern stereotyping of homosexual men.
Spirosaur 1 month ago
Amazing how this kind of stuff could be "sneaked in", I suppose... Still, anybody back then (I'm talking about the 1930s, not the "Some Like It Hot"era) who might complain could end up being accused of having a dirty mind. Interesting... Have we become so jaded now, that we choose to see what might not even have originally been intended? Hard to say... They had censorship issues to deal with back then, so who knows for sure? And so the debate will go on, I guess...
ClarasBeau 1 month ago
Thanks for posting this...interesting.
I have to add that it makes me really angry that in 'the day' gay people were always shown as faggy gay bafoons. Guess the hetros could only accept a gay person if they could laugh at him.
michaelfromdc 1 month ago
Nice video. Yes - for commercial films sex is a very touchy subject in our puritanical and oppressed society - even today. So the only depiction of "gay" people (especially men) could not be of sexual nature. "Gays" had to be immediately recognized as "effeminate" to make people laugh at them easier and make themselves feel more secure. Even today the "gay" character on "Glee" cannot be seen being sexual with his boyfriend. He's mainly presented as being effeminate and thus "gay".
3investigators 7 months ago
Some of the images did suggested the effeminate character attitudes of the past toward gay men. but hays code forbid direct knowledge on the screen . but the rest wasn't intentionally suppose to suggest gayness. Remember in shake spear days straight men actors did play female roles
mikemcgee 7 months ago
The movie at 5:25 is DANCING LADY with Joan Crawford. The number is actually "That's the Rhythm of the Day" (although here, "'Im Going Shopping with You" from GOLDDIGERS OF 1935 is used as the background music).
bwazoo2000 9 months ago
Thank you! Excellent compilation. Good work.
oobleckboy 2 years ago