@TheKarashy 1. Armenians want recognition .. but they also want, billions of dollars and on top of that Armenia the third world gypsy country with 2 million population wants 1/3rd of Turkey (exact same land you call Kurdistan)
2. Armenians killed more Kurds then any other people lol. Pro PKK bitches won't mind .. they just need an ally to make Turkey look bad .. who cares that the Armenians, raped their grand mothers, killed their daughters, sons and fathers.
@TheKarashy Turkey has been unfair against Kurds regarding cultural rights. But that was 30 fucking years ago at least .. When the Turkish army destroyed/relocated 3000 villages (what Pro PKK Kurds say was biggest crime of Turkey vs Kurds) it was UNDER A KURDISH PRESIDENT "Turgut Ozal"
Kurds have always been equal (KURDISH PRESIDENT and Generals not enough fucking prove?)
Nowadays Kurds have all their rights, and NOT ONE of them was given because of terror.
@TheKarashy First Armenia should recognize how their "NATIONAL HEROES" the dashnak murdered hundreds of thousands in Turkey between 1870 and 1915. Then they should apologize for the Hocali massacre of Azeri Turks in Karabagh and give back Karabagh.
We already said "IF" they go to court (ICJ), or accept a international coalition of historians to research it .. and if they are proven right or win the court case .. we WILL say sorry
@TheKarashy HAHA So when Kurd massacre Armenians out of "revenge" for what Armenians did to their families, wifes, father, children etc. Somehow the modern Turkish state is responsible even though it did not even exist back then? HAHAHAH This proves how low the average IQ of a PKK apologist is .. you're a pathetic man ,, you supported the murder of the 6 yo Kurdish girl and her father a few weeks ago .. you supported the murder of the Kurdish pregnant women, and 4 others by PKK
@TheKarashy See that's FUCKING retarded. Countries aren't created by GOD, so don't put God in the mix. Empires ARE countries.
Kurdistan was NEVER a country because : The word Kurd and Kurdistan is only few hundred years old. It was given to Yezidi's who became Muslim. Selcuk Turks gave the name Kurdistan to the region where most of these Muslim Yezids lived.
Kurds are a mix of Armenians, Arabs, Persians and Yezidi;s.. they came here 200 bc with the Persian invasions.,
@TheKarashy Worse you blame the modern Turkish government for what the Ottoman government "supposedly" has done .. WTF do you base your allegations on?
Are you an historian? Have you studied this? NO, you're a retard, who thinks it's ok to make baseless accusations because you support Kurdish terrorists, why not support Armenians too .. or any other enemy of Turkey for that matter ..
Also, HAHA independent state in your dreams ,,, we'll simply deport you all to Iraq
@TheKarashy man STFU, you're blaming the Ottoman government for deporting Armenians because they whgere mostly killing your people. And no The Armenians DO NOT accept that, they say we were defenseless innocent angels and the Turks came and slaughtered us, while it's NOT even close to the truth., Also you fucking retard, Turks are the definition of Justice you terrorist supporting SOB, you talk about honesty, justice etc. while you support baby murderers
@Turoyan You said, Armenians slaughtered many Turks, Kurds and Azeris, they must pay too. But, Turks have slaughtered many Kurds, you must pay too, right?
@3choBlaster I am not Armenian, I'm Kurdish. I just think that the Turkish state should recognize the Armenian genocide, because it was committed by the Turkish state.
@3choBlaster The reason Kurdistan was never a country was because God created the world without borders. Historically, there weren't any countries in the world. Only empires etc.
@3choBlaster Good, then Kurds are getting many steps closer to an Independent Kurdish state. As you said, we have Kurdish channels, newspapers, radios in Kurdish, and we didn't have those earlier.
@3choBlaster If Armenians are a bunch of liars, then what are Turks? Turks should never use Justice in a sentence, because they don't know what Justice is. If you, a Turk, know what Justice is, then explain a bit about the Turkish Justice, and don't lie. Armenia is and have been doing for a long time, and the Turkish MP is just scared, you forget that the Turkish state have to pay alot. Haven't you heard what the French are trying to do?
Try to respect the Armenian genocide, it's not Fakocide...
@TheKarashy Anyway, answer this one little question ...
If the Armenian fakocide is true ..
Then why does Armenia choose to gain recognition by pressuring governments who aren't related to the subject to recognition even criminalization of the subject.
Why doesn't Armenia go to the International Court of JUSTICE instead? Like any other normal country would do .. The Turkish PM even said, if they win the case we will say sorry .. haha
@TheKarashy There are Kurdish tv channels, news papers, radio's etc. A Kurdish history institute, language institute etc. etc . etc. There is a reason why 80% of the Kurds vote for Turkish parties. There is a reason why there are 80 000 village guards and tens of thousands of Kurdish soldiers in the Turkish armed forces vs 4000 pkk members, of which 50% women and of the men many from Syria, Iran, Armenia etc.
@TheKarashy Also Kurdistan was NEVER a country, the region the Kurds call Kurdistan you Armenians call Greater Armenia haha got to love the retardedness (not a real word) of you people
Kurdistan is a name for a region, a name the TURKS gave to that region. The name Kurd is a name invented for Yezidi's who converted to Islam. Kurdistan is a name given by the Selcuks.
Also this isn't the 70's anymore. Kurds can speak their language, even learn their language at uni's
@TheKarashy Don't act innocent you bastard, you killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims. The Ottomans where LATE in deporting you bastards. Not to mention GENOCIDE? So with a genocide we let 100 000 of your people live in Istanbul, Izmir etc?! We deported only the danger zones, yes many died. But not because we wanted them to. No food, disease, etc etc. The Turkish people all other people in the country suffered the same fate.
same rights?there is no real turk in turkey,but those people choose Turk identity to be united.Yes you cannot speak Kurdish but they cannot speak Lydian,Hittian,Trojan..languages too.Except that you have all same rights with turks.Turkish government is bad and brutal right!but it is bad to everyone not only against kurds.You didnt want to fight with turks,you choose to fight against turks.PKK killed a lot of civilian innocent people and you supported them.
as I told you there was not Turkey in 1915.Turkey was recognized after 1915 as well.Turks didnt have a state then.It was Ottoman empire era not Turkey.Armenians want their ancient lands and your kurdistan is actually their country.So they should wellcome you not you.Also armenians slaugtered many turks,kurds and azeris,they must pay it too.
@Turoyan We Kurds, a very peaceful people, never blames anyone if they haven't done anything. The only reason we blame Turks is because the Turkish state banned the Kurdish culture, everything that had to do with Kurdish language, names, alphabet. It's a very brutal act and you cannot expect 20 million innocent Kurds to be silence, of course you will be blamed. Unfortunately, we are part of Turkey, and we Kurds, the largest ethnic minority, don't have the same rights as the Turks.
@Turoyan My eyes are open, and as I said, Armenians are welcome and will always be welcome by Kurds. I know for example that Mustafa Ataturk Kemal was a Turkish general and took part in the Armenian genocide, he actually gave orders, a fact that you cannot deny. If Kurds took part in the Armenian genocide- I don't really know because Kurdistan wasn't recognized as a country, so it still counts as Turkey that brought the Armenian Holocaust.
what turkish generals??how do you know that they were turk??They were greek,armenian,kurdish,turkish..origined muslim ottoman generals..it is very well known that kurds killed more armenians in the past,at least they say so..They already accepted that,so what will you pay to armenians?Armenians want lands,and of course many kurdish cities originally were their cities in the past.After they finish their work with anatolian turks,it will be your turn..open your eyes please!
There was no Turkey in 1915, it was still ottoman empire not Turkey.Ottoman empire was not a turkish empire,it was kurdish,greek,armenian,turkish,balkanian,arabic,persian..empire.Of course you are a part of Turkey,but you don't act that way.You put all responsibilites on modern turks and blame all turkish people and insult them everywhere. If you are a part of turkey and ottoman of course you should take responsibility with all anatolian and ottoman people.
@Turoyan We are part of Turkey, if Turkey accepts what they have done and tells the truth, the Turkish state will have to pay everything. Usually, you don't blame the soldiers, they only follow orders without knowing why, but who we should really blame is the Turkish generals and leaders during 1910-1920. It is those who gave the orders to massacre Armenians. It doesn't matter whether Turks will deny it or not, the whole world are already aware that Turkey committed the Armenian genocide.
@TheKarashy 1. Armenians want recognition .. but they also want, billions of dollars and on top of that Armenia the third world gypsy country with 2 million population wants 1/3rd of Turkey (exact same land you call Kurdistan)
2. Armenians killed more Kurds then any other people lol. Pro PKK bitches won't mind .. they just need an ally to make Turkey look bad .. who cares that the Armenians, raped their grand mothers, killed their daughters, sons and fathers.
3choBlaster 1 hour ago
@TheKarashy Turkey has been unfair against Kurds regarding cultural rights. But that was 30 fucking years ago at least .. When the Turkish army destroyed/relocated 3000 villages (what Pro PKK Kurds say was biggest crime of Turkey vs Kurds) it was UNDER A KURDISH PRESIDENT "Turgut Ozal"
Kurds have always been equal (KURDISH PRESIDENT and Generals not enough fucking prove?)
Nowadays Kurds have all their rights, and NOT ONE of them was given because of terror.
3choBlaster 1 hour ago
@TheKarashy First Armenia should recognize how their "NATIONAL HEROES" the dashnak murdered hundreds of thousands in Turkey between 1870 and 1915. Then they should apologize for the Hocali massacre of Azeri Turks in Karabagh and give back Karabagh.
We already said "IF" they go to court (ICJ), or accept a international coalition of historians to research it .. and if they are proven right or win the court case .. we WILL say sorry
But they know, they will lose
3choBlaster 1 hour ago
@TheKarashy HAHA So when Kurd massacre Armenians out of "revenge" for what Armenians did to their families, wifes, father, children etc. Somehow the modern Turkish state is responsible even though it did not even exist back then? HAHAHAH This proves how low the average IQ of a PKK apologist is .. you're a pathetic man ,, you supported the murder of the 6 yo Kurdish girl and her father a few weeks ago .. you supported the murder of the Kurdish pregnant women, and 4 others by PKK
3choBlaster 1 hour ago
@TheKarashy See that's FUCKING retarded. Countries aren't created by GOD, so don't put God in the mix. Empires ARE countries.
Kurdistan was NEVER a country because : The word Kurd and Kurdistan is only few hundred years old. It was given to Yezidi's who became Muslim. Selcuk Turks gave the name Kurdistan to the region where most of these Muslim Yezids lived.
Kurds are a mix of Armenians, Arabs, Persians and Yezidi;s.. they came here 200 bc with the Persian invasions.,
3choBlaster 1 hour ago
@TheKarashy Worse you blame the modern Turkish government for what the Ottoman government "supposedly" has done .. WTF do you base your allegations on?
Are you an historian? Have you studied this? NO, you're a retard, who thinks it's ok to make baseless accusations because you support Kurdish terrorists, why not support Armenians too .. or any other enemy of Turkey for that matter ..
Also, HAHA independent state in your dreams ,,, we'll simply deport you all to Iraq
3choBlaster 1 hour ago
@TheKarashy man STFU, you're blaming the Ottoman government for deporting Armenians because they whgere mostly killing your people. And no The Armenians DO NOT accept that, they say we were defenseless innocent angels and the Turks came and slaughtered us, while it's NOT even close to the truth., Also you fucking retard, Turks are the definition of Justice you terrorist supporting SOB, you talk about honesty, justice etc. while you support baby murderers
3choBlaster 1 hour ago
@Turoyan You said, Armenians slaughtered many Turks, Kurds and Azeris, they must pay too. But, Turks have slaughtered many Kurds, you must pay too, right?
TheKarashy 3 hours ago
@3choBlaster I am not Armenian, I'm Kurdish. I just think that the Turkish state should recognize the Armenian genocide, because it was committed by the Turkish state.
TheKarashy 4 hours ago
@3choBlaster It still counts as an Armenian genocide committed by the Turkish State.
TheKarashy 4 hours ago
@3choBlaster The reason Kurdistan was never a country was because God created the world without borders. Historically, there weren't any countries in the world. Only empires etc.
TheKarashy 4 hours ago
@3choBlaster Good, then Kurds are getting many steps closer to an Independent Kurdish state. As you said, we have Kurdish channels, newspapers, radios in Kurdish, and we didn't have those earlier.
TheKarashy 4 hours ago
@3choBlaster If Armenians are a bunch of liars, then what are Turks? Turks should never use Justice in a sentence, because they don't know what Justice is. If you, a Turk, know what Justice is, then explain a bit about the Turkish Justice, and don't lie. Armenia is and have been doing for a long time, and the Turkish MP is just scared, you forget that the Turkish state have to pay alot. Haven't you heard what the French are trying to do?
Try to respect the Armenian genocide, it's not Fakocide...
TheKarashy 4 hours ago
@TheKarashy Anyway, answer this one little question ...
If the Armenian fakocide is true ..
Then why does Armenia choose to gain recognition by pressuring governments who aren't related to the subject to recognition even criminalization of the subject.
Why doesn't Armenia go to the International Court of JUSTICE instead? Like any other normal country would do .. The Turkish PM even said, if they win the case we will say sorry .. haha
Armenians are a scared bunch of liars
3choBlaster 13 hours ago
@TheKarashy There are Kurdish tv channels, news papers, radio's etc. A Kurdish history institute, language institute etc. etc . etc. There is a reason why 80% of the Kurds vote for Turkish parties. There is a reason why there are 80 000 village guards and tens of thousands of Kurdish soldiers in the Turkish armed forces vs 4000 pkk members, of which 50% women and of the men many from Syria, Iran, Armenia etc.
3choBlaster 13 hours ago
@TheKarashy Also Kurdistan was NEVER a country, the region the Kurds call Kurdistan you Armenians call Greater Armenia haha got to love the retardedness (not a real word) of you people
Kurdistan is a name for a region, a name the TURKS gave to that region. The name Kurd is a name invented for Yezidi's who converted to Islam. Kurdistan is a name given by the Selcuks.
Also this isn't the 70's anymore. Kurds can speak their language, even learn their language at uni's
3choBlaster 13 hours ago
@TheKarashy Don't act innocent you bastard, you killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Muslims. The Ottomans where LATE in deporting you bastards. Not to mention GENOCIDE? So with a genocide we let 100 000 of your people live in Istanbul, Izmir etc?! We deported only the danger zones, yes many died. But not because we wanted them to. No food, disease, etc etc. The Turkish people all other people in the country suffered the same fate.
3choBlaster 13 hours ago
@TheKarashy HAHA 1. You were deported there was no ordered genocide.
2. You killed defenseless Muslims (mostly Kurds and Turks) to create an ethnically pure "greater Armenia" of which you still openly dream.
3. Kurds took hardcore revenge and massacred thousands of you when they returned to their homes to fiend their families raped and killed.
4. After 40 years of Armenians massacring defenseless Muslims, they took over Van massacred 30 000, the Ottomans then decided to deport.
3choBlaster 13 hours ago
@TheKarashy
same rights?there is no real turk in turkey,but those people choose Turk identity to be united.Yes you cannot speak Kurdish but they cannot speak Lydian,Hittian,Trojan..languages too.Except that you have all same rights with turks.Turkish government is bad and brutal right!but it is bad to everyone not only against kurds.You didnt want to fight with turks,you choose to fight against turks.PKK killed a lot of civilian innocent people and you supported them.
Turoyan 14 hours ago
@TheKarashy
as I told you there was not Turkey in 1915.Turkey was recognized after 1915 as well.Turks didnt have a state then.It was Ottoman empire era not Turkey.Armenians want their ancient lands and your kurdistan is actually their country.So they should wellcome you not you.Also armenians slaugtered many turks,kurds and azeris,they must pay it too.
Turoyan 14 hours ago
@Turoyan We Kurds, a very peaceful people, never blames anyone if they haven't done anything. The only reason we blame Turks is because the Turkish state banned the Kurdish culture, everything that had to do with Kurdish language, names, alphabet. It's a very brutal act and you cannot expect 20 million innocent Kurds to be silence, of course you will be blamed. Unfortunately, we are part of Turkey, and we Kurds, the largest ethnic minority, don't have the same rights as the Turks.
TheKarashy 17 hours ago
@Turoyan My eyes are open, and as I said, Armenians are welcome and will always be welcome by Kurds. I know for example that Mustafa Ataturk Kemal was a Turkish general and took part in the Armenian genocide, he actually gave orders, a fact that you cannot deny. If Kurds took part in the Armenian genocide- I don't really know because Kurdistan wasn't recognized as a country, so it still counts as Turkey that brought the Armenian Holocaust.
TheKarashy 17 hours ago
@TheKarashy
what turkish generals??how do you know that they were turk??They were greek,armenian,kurdish,turkish..origined muslim ottoman generals..it is very well known that kurds killed more armenians in the past,at least they say so..They already accepted that,so what will you pay to armenians?Armenians want lands,and of course many kurdish cities originally were their cities in the past.After they finish their work with anatolian turks,it will be your turn..open your eyes please!
Turoyan 19 hours ago
@TheKarashy
There was no Turkey in 1915, it was still ottoman empire not Turkey.Ottoman empire was not a turkish empire,it was kurdish,greek,armenian,turkish,balkanian,arabic,persian..empire.Of course you are a part of Turkey,but you don't act that way.You put all responsibilites on modern turks and blame all turkish people and insult them everywhere. If you are a part of turkey and ottoman of course you should take responsibility with all anatolian and ottoman people.
Turoyan 19 hours ago
@Turoyan We are part of Turkey, if Turkey accepts what they have done and tells the truth, the Turkish state will have to pay everything. Usually, you don't blame the soldiers, they only follow orders without knowing why, but who we should really blame is the Turkish generals and leaders during 1910-1920. It is those who gave the orders to massacre Armenians. It doesn't matter whether Turks will deny it or not, the whole world are already aware that Turkey committed the Armenian genocide.
TheKarashy 1 day ago