How to think properly about God - the Atheist Experience

Awesome display of intellectual superiority.

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[twistedH3L1X]

That was one of the best Atheist -Experience videos I have seen. Matt is very, very , VERY eloquent and clear. I would almost recommend this to my theist friends, but you know how that goes.

[Davin404]

@heavymetalnguyen I have a feeling that, because Matt expressed himself so clearly, the caller began to understand the other side in a deeper fashion. Remember that there are a lot of Christians who are afraid when their beliefs are shaken. I'd like to think Matt got through to him. He started to make sense and suddenly the caller's world was flipped, turned upside down and I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there, I'll tell you all about how Matt converted a fundie.

[Tunnelfish2]

It seems to boil down to threats as a last resort one way or another. The threat of going to hell, the threat of visiting actual violence, the threat of losing one's job or social support... Belief all forced by punishment and not true facts. It's no different than the way a tyrant would govern a country. The believers worship a tyrant and use tyrant tactics to push it on others.

[IoEstasCedonta]

...what the... that came out of nowhere.

[Forlo12345]

Why do christians get so angry when their way of thinking and faith gets challenged by a little logic?

[Hanahleia]

@twistedH3L1X I wasn't insulting you, I was trying to break through the ambiguity of your statement so we can actually begin to have a healthy dialogue.

[betonman9]

"intellectual superiority"?? he's just normal....

[Hanahleia]

@pseudorandomly I'll just suggest that you Google something like DMT or take a peak at Rick Strassman's book on DMT, research a phenomenon like "ego death" or "cosmic consciousness." Terence only pointed to a phenomenon that could potentially happen to anyone's consciousnesss, it's up to you to take the courageous dose that he spoke about, just be sure you prepare yourself by informing yourself about what you're really getting into. Then, judge for yourself.

/watch?v=a2rR2rib1Ow#t=5m33s

[Hanahleia]

@pseudorandomly What I meant by take up Terence McKenna's recommendation is to actually have the experience with the dose ranges he recommended, which is very different from listening to him speak. Yes, it sounds like babble to you now, because you haven't had this colossal altered state of consciousness, so you have nowhere in your mind to relate to it in order to understand it. And your reference to QM is only the very low spectrum of QM of which our very limited instrumentality can measure.

[pseudorandomly]

@Hanahleia

Accepting your challenge, I looked up Terence McKenna. Thanks, but I'll side with demonstrable evidence over hallucinogenic drug-induced babbling any day of the week. Show me some tangible, observable, testable, and reproducible evidence, and I'll listen to what you have to say. Altered brain chemistry is not a pathway to truth.

[pseudorandomly]

@Hanahleia

I don't take your meaning in reference to quantum physics at all. Quantum mechanics is among the most precise theories we have -- theoretical calculations of quantum values can be made to at least ten decimal places of agreement with experiment. We can *predict* with accuracy the outcome of quantum interactions. We build quantum apparatuses that perform exactly as we expect them to. How much more "demonstrable" do you want?

[Hanahleia]

@atheistjacob Atheists are always hung up on 'demonstrable evidence,' which is why I'd urge any atheist to read Alan Watts, take up one of Terence McKenna's recommendations, listen to what Graham Hancock's raving about, or hear what Robert Anton Wilson thinks of 'demonstrable evidence.' What I mean by "higher consciousness" is probably more closely tied with quantum physics, in which it is nearly impossible, if impossible to have any "demonstrable" evidence as we traditionally accept it.