Avre tu puerta cerrada - Dalaras Live at Herodes Atticus

Traditional Ladino (Dalaras & BBC Orchestra, 2000)

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[Lindsayjane42]

Glad to see that you have added the word 'Sefardi' to your description. It does not really matter where the music is performed or where it is popular. Singing a Sefardi song in Greece does not make it a Greek song. I am Australian. If I sing a Sefardi song, does that make it an Australian song? This song is part of Hispanic-Jewish culture and really should be recognised as such.

[outis27]

Excuse me, is my English so bad you don't understand what I'm writing? I described the song as "TRADITIONAL LADINO" in the first place and you keep accusing me of misinformation just because I added the tags "Greece" and "Greek" for the reasons I have explained. I don't have anything to add to my previous comments, have a nice week.

[Lindsayjane42]

and I was talking about the tags, nothing else. If you do not include Sefardi, Jewish, Spanish, Judeo-Spanish, Ladino or Judesmo for this song, then people who are looking for Sefardi music online will only find it by accident, like I did. Historical reference for what I said is in a fairly recent book by Mark Mazower about Salonika. Please check it and please note I did not apply any insulting adjectives to you, as you did to me.

[outis27]

You didn't find the song by accident. It was among the "related videos" listed beside the Yehoram Gaon's version that you have in your favorites. You can also notice that the uploader of Gaon's video only used the word "sefaradí-Sephardic" in his description and not all the words that you said I should have used. Finally, in the tags I only add any related words I haven't used in the title and the video information.

[outis27]

Your comments about the Jews and the Greeks of Thessaloniki are totally uncalled for and irrelevant to this music video (which has received positive comments by Jewish people too). So I'm not going to answer you. But let me recommend you another book by Mark Mazower: "Inside Hitler's Greece: The Experience of Occupation, 1941-44".

[Lindsayjane42]

The tags for this song should include "Sephardi", "Jewish", "Spanish", "Judeo-Spanish", "Ladino" and "Judesmo" rather than Greek. This is not really Greek music. Considering how the local christian Greek people of Salonika took advantage of what the Nazis did in Salonika, by stealing Jewish property after the Jews had been loaded onto the trains for Auschwitz... and how the local Salonikan government took over and destroyed the Jewish cemetery to build the University of Salonika

[outis27]

I didn't say this is a Greek song, I said it is a "traditional Ladino". Haven't you checked out the video information? As for the tags "Greek" and "Greece", Dalaras is a Greek singer (very popular in Israel too) and the concert was held in Athens, Greece. I'm afraid the only irrelevant thing here is your comment.

[SashSegal]

Avre tu puerta cerrada;

Que en tu balcon luz no hay.

El amor a ti te vela;

Partemos mi flor,

Partemos de aqui.

Yo demandi de la tu hermozura,

Como te la dio el dio.

La hermozura tuya es pura,

La merezco solo yo.

[zzxxmm10]

Avre tu puerta cerrada

Que en tu balcon luz no hay

El amor a ti te vela (vola)

Partemos mi flor

Partemos de aqui.

Yo demandi de la tu hermozura moshe shabot

[zzindorf]

Who is the singer? It sounds like the same arrangement as that of Yehoram Gaon.

[busyhive]

@Lindsayjane42 , Think you have some real issues . stop wanting to label everyhthing - can't you just enjoy the music !

[canaanite23]

@themosmitsos and that fucken remark "that's why everyone hate you". why, it's hard to hear the reality? ppl hate cos it's hard to look in ones face knowing what and how things happened. so it's easier to find excuses, it eases the mind.

anyways, as now radical Islam is spreading and growing in the continent, you too will feel how it is to be a minority. twat.

[canaanite23]

@themosmitsos you bigot little bastard. where the fuck do you get off? he was making a comment about something which is completely understandable. if someone would tag traditional Greek music that was adapted in Turkey, as Turkish, i'm sure you'd have some thing to say. in my opinion he is going on about it too much. but that's the thing, ppl are ppl.

[Dan1988A]

Geia sou Dalaras! This is an interesting version of this song, and I like it. Thank you outis27.

[themosmitsos]

its this kind of behavior that causes everyone to hate you...and believe me they do...it's just a vid posting not requiring your Jewish/Sephardic/Salonik minority diatribe, you could've just noted it it and let it go which is why I won't either. When everyone hates you (whether currently politically correct to admit so or not) it is you who is the common denominator and therefore the cause, as illustrated herein... so I say fuck the yews sephardic & ashkenazi...hmm got the word nazi in it huh?

[Lindsayjane42]

It is an interesting comment on what national cultures forget, what they refuse to remember and what they refuse to learn about their past. By the way, I'm getting that book by Mark Mazower that you suggested out of my local library. How are you going in your reading?

[Lindsayjane42]

It is an ironic understatement, to say the least, that considering how some Christian Greeks and the Salonikan local government behaved towards Jewish people and their material culture, that now some people are happy to subsume Hispanic-Jewish culture under another label.