Re: Some Roman Catholic Issues: Transubstantiation/Apocrypha

A refutation of the existence of tabernacles.

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[dangerousdan71]

Great video.

[curvalecce]

Very interesting, but Mr Belisario seems to avoid the main issue of Patristic support, prefering instead to direct the discussion onto comparison of authorities, which is not consistent with the Roman Catholic (stated) position of a magisterium derived PURELY from Scripture and the teachings of the Fathers.

What disturbs me most, however, about Roman Catholic apologetics, is how Church Fathers' opinions are chosen, given their views were not invariably in agreement...

[lolshi1]

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[1pearl2]

The first gentleman built the straw man argument that the word Transubstantiation did not occur until the 12th century. So what? A new term is introduced in the 12th century to describe what John was saying in chapter 6 all along. Jesus said multiple times he would come down from heaven as bread and if we eat this bread we will eat his body and have life everlasting.

[prchdaword]

so what is the fallacy committed? Couldn't you be cited as arguing simply an argument based on the authority of someone who agrees with you meaning you are begging the question, or assuming your conclusion and then seeking sources that agree? Also, anybody who has read enough of the Fathers knows that they contradict themselve in many things. Also, since the reigning views of their times were Platoning in nature, it is hard to conceive that they were Aristotelians in their thinking

[Catholicdrummer]

I'm reading Scott Hahn's book now "Letter and Spirit" and in it he writes about how in the fourth century Paulinus of Nola comments that "every Tabernacle had two compartments-one for the Eucharist, and another for the Bible, since each is, in its own way, the supernatural food for our souls" (190). So much that Tabernacles only existed in the 12th century. . .

[ukidding]

albert einstein

The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

thank you albert.