Dynaco speakers unpleasant surprise

Apparently they sold me the cheapo model, compared to what Burton got. The same company appears to be selling the better model, with woodgrain front and polypropylene woofers, under the ESS brand -- at a higher price. Are those worth the extra money? Maybe. Are these "cheapo" ones worth $49.99? I'd say no, but look out for no-reserve auctions where you may be able to get a pair much cheaper (I saw one auction end at less than $20, shipping still included).

p.s. I just contacted the eBay seller asking either to exchange these for the "good" version, or for a partial refund. I'll let you guys know what happens!

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[emersiveav]

your driving those with a shit receiver so why bother with better woofers? really you have no idea of anything your talkign about.....

[vwestlife]

@emersiveav 70 watts per channel is not "shit".

[bonejob]

By the way, the size of a woofer's magnet is NOT a reliable measure of its quality. Bigger is NOT always better. Magnet size and strength, voice coil type and configuration, cone material - ALL have implications for the final electrical and acoustic properties of the woofer. And these properties, combined with the enclosure type, size and construction have implications for the overall performance of the speaker SYSTEM. Magnet size tells you NOTHING USEFUL about the final quality of a speaker!

[vwestlife]

@bonejob My complaints were more about the inferior paper cones than about the size of the magnets. Certainly, vintage Alnico magnet speakers often have amazing sound quality despite using relatively tiny magnet sizes.

[bonejob]

I don't know where you got those speakers, but those are NOT genuine Dynaco speakers! Real Dynaco never, NEVER used horn tweeters - always soft domes. Real Dynaco speakers were made during the 1960's and 1970's in Denmark by SEAS or Scan-Speak. The speakers you show were made in the 90's - most likely in Asia - for Panor Corporation, the company now owning the Dynaco name. To be blunt, these are CRAP! Despite their use of the Dynaco name, they have NO connection to the beloved classic Dynacos.

[vwestlife]

@bonejob These speakers were made by ESS, who bought out Dynaco in 1979. These may have been "new old stock" remaining from before Panor took over, because the box claimed these were "Made in USA", and the same speakers were also sold with the ESS brand name on them.

[320bit]

I prefer paper cones for sound quality. They have never let me down. Treated paper that is.

[320bit]

@emersiveav Look up tube amplifiers. They dont make quality like that anymore.

[320bit]

@emersiveav Its only shit if only 20 of those "watts" are making it to the driver. People dont know what real efficient amplifiers sound like. 100watts can sound like 1000watts if the 1000watt amplifier is horribly inefficient.

[oatstao]

@320bit that's why the most yamaha NS-10's are so revered for monitoring

mixes, they had a wood pulp mixture, and incidentally is very hard

to process so they discontinued them in 2001. Nature is always right.

[oatstao]

@vwestlife even 15 watts per can sound amazing... there's a huge "But" there..and has nothing to do with an obese woman.

[SpeakerFreak95]

@emersiveav wow, you really dont kow what "shit" is from good stuff. WAY OFF!

[SoraRoxasdude1]

Dosen't the cabinet have a slight effect on sound? Well dosent it make it sound a bit deeper? I know for sure the strength, and cone material plays a role correct me if I'm wrong.

[bonejob]

@vwestlife I don't recall that I EVER said anything about the size of the magnets(?). As you say, the size of the magnets means little. And BTW, paper cones are NOT necessarily inferior! Dynaco A-25's - in their day - easily held their own against products several times their price. Especially impressive was their freedom from colorations in the bass and lower midrange. Those "inferior" paper woofers with tiny magnets could reproduce solid bass and handle 200+ w/ch from my Dyna Stereo 400 amp.

[49kasey]

vwestlife, bonejob knows what he's talking about. The woofers may actually be quite good. The end result is the sound after all and those other homemade speakers you bought at the thrift shop used a small woofer with a small magnet. You said the horn tweeters were heavy. If they are made of metal you might get better sound with a pair of piezo tweeters.