"Waterboarding is Torture" | Says Conservative

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Erich "Mancow" Muller, a Chicago-based conservative radio host, recently decided to silence critics of waterboarding once and for all. He would undergo the procedure himself, and then he would be able to confidently convince others that it is not, in fact, torture.

Or so he thought. Instead, Muller came out convinced.

"It is way worse than I thought it would be, and that's no joke," Mancow said. "It is such an odd feeling to have water poured down your nose with your head back... It was instantaneous... and I don't want to say this: absolutely torture."

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[Sinisterene]

It only "worked" in the limited sense that you got him to say something YOU WANTED HIM TO SAY, not necessarily something truthful or otherwise (not unlike extracting a false confession).

Amendment 8: (...) nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

He was voluntarily waterboarded, not unlike recruits who are voluntarily waterboarded as part of their training, and I REALLY doubt you'd say that is illegal

PS: signed release, smartass

[fjccommish]

It worked in this video, it worked when used twice against admitted terrorists, and it isn't unconstitutional the way it was carried out with those terrorists. BTW, if it were illegal, then this video shows an illegal activity.

[Sinisterene]

Nancy Pelosi would disagree with you.

Regardless, it's still ineffective, unconstitutional and immoral.

[StPierruarry]

puss-see

[Jeremy1281988]

LOL. It figures that the neo-cons, once one of their own admits waterboarding is torture, they try to discredit him as not a true conservative, lol.

And Keith Olbermann only issued a challenge to SEAN HANNITY AFTER HANNITY ALREADY OFFERED TO GET WATERBOARDED FOR CHARITY. He just tried to keep him to his word (which of course hannity didn't have the balls to do).

[fjccommish]

He would not have subjected himself to real torture, and he wouldn't be perfectly fine 3 seconds after being tortured.

This was a challenge put out by Olbermann, who basically wanted to use waterboarding to force conservative commentators (Mancow is a 28th string conservative commentator) to say waterboarding is torture. It isn't.

People don't voluntarily submit to torture. They aren't perfectly fine when it ends. Again, this proves waterboarding is effective, but not torture.

[Jeremy1281988]

and don't give me this BS about the Japs waterboarding worse than America. It either is or isn't torture. I don't think you would know how hard officials at Gitmo waterboarded those 3 people over and over.

And trust me, i'm pretty sure even the people against torture would love to waterboard the PROVEN terrorists (because lots are held there with no proof and no rights) over and over. Its just simply illegal.

[Jeremy1281988]

no, not even close. He was waterboarding because he wanted to prove that it was NOT torture, something he was saying on his program.

And remember, Mancow was waterboarded much easier than they were waterboarding at Gitmo, and he couldn't even make it halfway to the normal time.

BTW, there was no "liberal" involved in this. I know its fun to blame "liberals" though.

[fjccommish]

So he was waterboarded, as I said, to get him to admit waterboarding is torture. When the Japanese waterboarded, they did it as torture, with no goal other than to harm people. People died during the process. Mancow wouldn't have volunteered for the Japanese brand of waterboarding. A talk show host volunteering for a process, and within seconds after undergoing it not even being out of breath, proves it isn't torture.

[Jeremy1281988]

Err, by 4 and a half seconds I meant 6 seconds.