Rachel Maddow- Immigration (2) group president addresses racism accusations

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[TheBlueConch]

Righteous Rachel! Excellent work.

[DillonDee1]

This guy is KKK all the way.

And, damn, Rachel does her research!

[ginesdepasamonte]

FAIR is a hate group, nothing more.

[punkmanjon]

@hughster41 You best get out then cos your country belongs to the American Indians.

[liqdC]

Excuse me John Tanton is the Founder of Fair, Ford is not the founder of De La Raza.

[liqdC]

He is Comparing Ford and De La Raza to John Tanton and FAIR. Truth: Ford was never the President of De La Raza. Appeal to doubtful authority- fallacy. Check-mate Dan Stein. He's good at pussy-footing, but he gets shot down every time he makes a claim. The end.

[Jujuman2003]

Dan Stein is a bitch.

[zhao4long2]

misquote...... hahahaha, put the blame on somebody else

[11111110]

@hughster41

Wow, so God only cares about Americans?

[cjdallas21]

You did well, putting that dirtbag on his place Rachel!

[11111110]

@hughster41

And thats where we disagree. Rights are not something any man can just take away, nor do we have to suck up to a government approval agency just to be granted them.

[LikwidSnake]

Whoa! Douchebag alert!! Rachel ripped this guy a new one ... excellent stuff.

[theyremypeas]

how does rachel keep a straight face with parasites like this?

[punkmanjon]

@punkmanjon Sorry that shouldnt be doesnt not does!

[punkmanjon]

@hughster41 Im not trying to make up rules. Im saying that laws ALL laws (even good ones) are made up. The laws of America are 'made up' they are simply adhered to by consensus of the people, however, that does morally give you anymore right to the land of the USA than any other immigrant.

[punkmanjon]

@hughster41 Im not making it about brown and white. What makes your citizenship legitimate? Nothing but time and convention. In reality you have no more claim to citizenship of a country which you are not a native of than a Mexican, Arab or Chinese person does.

[punkmanjon]

@iLuvAkeys4ever Sorry but Im a politics MA student. Deomcracy does NOT mean doing what the majority want. That is a common misconception. Democracy is the ability to elect our own leaders and change them if we feel it necessary and we elect those who will represent the interests of all NOT just of the majority. No society can work if it simply does what the majority wants all the time that would be unbelievable stupidity.

[11111110]

@hughster41

You don't see the problem with that? You're still ascribing the government with the ability to give and remove rights.

[iLuvAkeys4ever]

@punkmanjon I think you are wrong. The whole point of democracy IS doing what the majority wants. That is why in Amsterdam people are allowed to legally smoke majuarnna and have sex with animals. The majority not the minority voted and these are its countries laws. If the minority ruled the day smoking majuanna and have sex with animals would be illegal in amsterdam!

[punkmanjon]

@Freshmanwave I agree with you but would also add that the English Americans speak is an imported and hybridised language anyway. It is not the same as English spoken in GB and therefore has no greater weight or reason for being the official language of America than any other language which is spoken by citizens of the US. This hughster guy does not seem to understand that democrary does NOT mean simply doing what the majority wants.

[punkmanjon]

@hughster41 You are making the mistake that white Americans somehow have a legitimate claim to the country. They don't. It was stolen from the indians. Over time people have come to accept it as legitimacy but please remember that you have no more right to be in America than anybody else who isnt a native american indian.

[11111110]

@hughster41

So you don't believe that the rights laid out by our founding fathers are God-given and inalienable? That people have rights only when the American government says they do?

[Freshmanwave]

Heck, to prevent you from swearing at me again, I'll even back down a bit and offer you a compromise; try using English as a universal official language and a second official language in localities where its native speakers take up a substantial minority of the local population.

[Freshmanwave]

But now let us go to my language proposal...

Why shouldn't a flexible language policy be enacted? After all, the US has no official language de jure, nor is she designed to cater exclusively to those who speak English. If you're uncomfortable with that idea...well, that's just too bad.

[Freshmanwave]

The only way to really solve the problem is to enact policies that encourage people to stay in Mexico. This is why NAFTA, which tanked workers' wages in Mexico and forced many to go north to find a livelihood, must be repealed. It is also why corporate greed, which is the fuel for this phenomenon, must be contained and kept in check.