Where did everything come from - The Atheist Experience #424

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[1rishShaman]

@DavidofChrist777 - Neither does the bible or any other holy text.

[PaintingOfTheMind]

@DavidofChrist777 people who study Evolution don't claim to know where everything came from, just what happened to life of earth.

[ShaneyCunn84]

haha Matt gets owned

[Hufflewaffle]

@HDell1994 What logic leads you to think that something had to 'cause existence'?

[gleehmee]

@DavidofChrist777 If you don't know something isn't asking the very thing you SHOULD be doing?

[TomVodkaCollins]

@HDell1994 Certainly, SOMETHING caused the Big Bang. There's no rational for that SOMETHING to be INTELLIGENT or DELIBERATE. BTW, "supernatural" is a null word. Everything that exists, exists within nature, regardless of your perception of its "naturalness".

[TomVodkaCollins]

Is the Darwin fish gettin' busy with the phone?

[Inclousid]

@HDell1994 So the creator of the universe doesn't itself need a creator? This is whats called special pleading, and is a well known logical fallacy, which makes me surprised you say your argument is based on logic. Additionally, natural things do not need a creator, they need a triggering event. "Creator" denotes an intelligence being required, and there is no logical argument for this posit.

[Marius6696]

@HDell1994

By "something" he meant something that can be scientifically proven with more time and study, not some god. The "it looks designed so there must be a designer" argument is so completely destroyed I am shocked every time I hear people still use it. A watch looks designed because it WAS. It does not occur NATURALLY any where. To properly understand what I am saying flip nature and man made around. Imagine walking on a beach MADE of watches and finding a tree in the middle of it. See?

[HDell1994]

Before I get negative votes, please consider my argument purely based off of logic. I am not solely arguing for theism with this comment.

These athiests confess to not know how existance (as we perceive it) started. Logically, SOMETHING had to cause it, which they also agreed to. When considering what that something is, we should see that it couldn't be "anything" that is natural because that natural thing would need a creator. SOMETHING "supernatural," infinite, and uncaused, must exist 1st.

[HDell1994]

Before I get negative votes, please consider my argument purely based off of logic. I am not solely arguing for theism with this comment.

These athiests confess to not know how existance (as we perceive it) started. Logically, SOMETHING had to cause it, which they also agreed to. When considering what that something is, we should see that it couldn't be "anything" that is natural because that natural thing would need a creator. SOMETHING "supernatural," infinite, and uncaused, must exist 1st.