Libertarian Lee Doren vs. Leftist Sam Seder

From the Majority Report, live M-F 11:30am EST and via daily podcast at http://Majority.FM:
Lee Doren answers Sam Seder's Libertarian Open Challenge on Sam's 12 Hour 1 Year Anniversary Live Broadcast. A Libertarian vs. Leftist debate!

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[benxr2006]

they incoherently talked past one another for 23 mins and nothing was really said, the host had no idea what lee was saying and lee was trying his best to make arguments with someone just waiting to pounce on his every mis-speech

[SkormFlinxingGlock]

Well I don't agree with this host's views at all, but at least he lets his guest talk. Kudos to that.

[christo930]

Sam, you have no idea what you are talking about. The gov can't "invest" in it's own treasuries. T-Bills and Treasury bonds are assets to the holder and a liability of the gov, If the gov hold's it's own t-bills and treasury bonds, the asset and liability cancel each other out. It's like a husband writing a check to his wife drawn on the same bank account, or if each week you wrote a post dated check then spent the money and said your post dated checks were an asset!

[christo930]

Sam is loosing this bad. He is trying to imply that since, by accident, some people or corporations will do better or worse simply because the gov exists is equal to the gov directly picking winners and losers. The gov didn't build the highway system to benefit Walmart, whereas the gov handed 500 million dollars to Solyndra. This is the difference he doesn't seem to understand, at least at the 15:45 mark

[gihaification]

@TreeSmoke1999 Can you in anyway prove that Socialized medicine is worse than Private system?

here’s the hidden truth in what you’re saying, There is Queues because EVERYONE is able to get treatments. In the private system is less of a queue because so many people live in poverty and can afford the cost of their treatment.

You can point at a few horrible cases, the exception that proves the rule.

I can point at the national statistics that show how superior it is.

[TreeSmoke1999]

@gihaification Wrong I live in Canada its almost third world health care. Socialized medicine is terrible, many people die waiting for there treatments. Trust me you do not want nationalized health care, the line ups are extreme, and I've been sent away with broken bones and not treated waited 3 weeks just to get looked at lol.

[gihaification]

@vwgolf1991 Because is a libertarians mind if something is successful theres a John Gault out there standing up to labour and GOVT and forcing them to keep out of his way!

Its just one big buzzword extravaganza when you talk to them, where they have to make up some bs position so they can knock it down with "Free market" talking points "Liberty" and the evils of "Socalism!"

If you ever ask for any fact and data to support there case they come up empty.

[vwgolf1991]

con't Singapore is successful bcs its a.carefully managed economy, b.ready supply of cheap foreign labour, and c.neighbours are 3rd world slums, making it an attractive base of operations for multinationals who want the resources of the 3rd world, but without the hassles of working there.