The Australian Standard Garrett
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And yes it should be "Australia's Garratt" - ISBN 0959832203 - published by the Geelong Steam Preservation in conjunction with the Victorian division of the ARHS. Book includes information on the Royal Commission and possibly a more objective look at the engines than from a purely Queensland perspective.
Under WA Chief Engineer Frederick Mills the allocation of staff from the states to the design team was NSWGR - 6, VR – 4, WAGR – 1, and TGR - 1. SA and Queensland declined to participate!
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The only surviving ASG is G33 currently located at the Victorian ARHS Railway museum in Williamstown. This locomotive was donated to the ARHS when the Fyansford Cement Works closed railway operations. The ARHS have recently signed an agreement to lease it to the Bellarine Railway at Queenscliff. The Bellarine Railway intends to move it in 2012 and to have it in steam by 2014. For a more objective look at the ASG's history read Robert Butrim's "Australia's Garrett" - ARHS publications - 1975
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hi I have been there often I was a member of the model railway club that was based therealthough havent been there for a few years just because of me health thanks for the reply
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@woolliehead I just got back from visiting Queensland...I went to the workshops at Ipswich. Their Beyer Garrett is now just a static display, it hasn't been steamed since 2004.... sadly, they told me that she will not be restored back to running condition.....she is a great looking loco.....The Ipswich Workshop Museum is a must see if you are in that area.....it's an awesome place....Cheers
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I guess that's what happens when a committee (or a board) tries to design a racehorse - you get a camel.
The South Australian Railways used 6 which were designated the '300' class on the Peterborough Division to alleviate double heading 'T' class on the broken Hill ore trains. They were always intended as a stop-gap measure, while awaiting the delivery of the ten '400' class garratts which were built under licence in France. They were set aside as very soon after the arrival of the '400 s '.
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When I was living in Mt Isa in 1970 we used to see retired steam locos stored at Cloncurry and I am sure I saw a derelict Garratt there. I can also remember the awesome standard guage Garratts working around Newcastle NSW.
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4 water tender these ASG around Peterborough SA
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those locomotives are godawful looking... YUCK!
I am not an expert but I think there is one of these at the Ipswich railway workshops dont know if it is workable but I have seen one like it on static display
woolliehead 5 months ago
@woolliehead the only ASG intact is in SA IIRC, the one at Ipswich is a Beyer Garratt
RedtailFox1 5 months ago
Redtail, you need to do some investigation.
1. It's Garratt.
2. Those engines, once detail mods were made, were quite OK.
3. 'The problem' was that they eliminated the double heading (and overtime) that more (quite good) C17's would have occasioned.
In Russia, those enginemen would have been shot for sabotage?
I don't suppport that, but the Japs were at our doorstep...no time for selfish bullshit?
herbgarratt 3 years ago
all the info i have quoted in the above comments came from the book 'Crimson Giants' put out by the Australian Railway Historical Society QLD Div and covering the ASG and the Beyer Garratt. So if my info is incorrect, then the ARHS must be in correct also.
RedtailFox1 3 years ago