Is this the way for Taiwanese to fight for independence?

The attack on Vice Chairman Zhang Mingqing of the Association for Relations Across the Taiwan Strait, in the city of Tainan.

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[sunnynaire]

Take a look at these taiwan-kia. They are like gangsters. Attacking an old defenseless visitor. Look at the way the siow-kia stomping his legs on top of the car. This is uncivilized and uncultured behavior. Even their politicians fight among themselves in parliament. I saw some of their "boxing matches" on TVs a couple of years back. Why taiwan-kia are so barbaric compared to the gentler mainlanders?

[MountainmanNick]

The Chinese government P.R.O.C are authoritarian and comunist . Taiwan is unique and democratic , it should never rejoin China under the P.R.O.C. China should follow Taiwan not the other way around.

[ta986468]

One day these Taiwanese NOT only attack Chinese, they will attack all Chinese people! Taiwanese people always want not to be Chinese in many way, even they have same culture and language!

Hey, why not US help Taiwanese to attack Chinese people? Where the US support???

[whytedog]

@sunnynaire

Now, now better having real lively debate in the Taiwanese Diet than the complete sham of China's N.P.C (Nod Politely and Clap). Anyway the old man has the low cunning of a sewer rat. He knew he would provoke a reaction by going into a Pan Green stronghold. The look of shock on his face and the way he took a dive was a piece of low C grade theater he deliberately went out his way to offend the sensitivities of the locals. An old defenseless visitor? A scheming deviant old crone YES

[another505]

@MountainmanNick yes follow them to fight against old people and others,and sorry taiwan is a part of china , it had never left china,so no need to rejoin , for me i like what is now

[ManjuSu]

@raininthesouth Also, the Qing could send reinforcements to fight for Taiwan IF Japanese forces wouldn't have occupied the main Taiwanese town of Makung, this led to the occupation of the Penghu islands wich sat on a very important geographic location, if you occupy these islands then it will be impossible for Qing reinforcements to land on Taiwan.

[ManjuSu]

@raininthesouth And I learned that Koxinga retreated to Taiwan and used the island as a base to reconquer the mainland and revive the Ming Dynasty, the KMT even claims to follow the legacy of Koxinga, to use Taiwan as a base to regain control over the Mainland. It's not that the Qing govt. wanted to give it away, they were FORCED to give it away, because Japan had Qing China at its balls at the end of the 1st Sino-Japanese war and Taiwan wasn't the only province that was ceded away from Qing.

[ManjuSu]

@raininthesouth 溥心畬 is from the Aisin Gioro clan, the Plain Yellow Banner. He has Kagorryo Jurchen ancestry, totally different. My Ancestors are from the Bordered White Banner from the Sushin clan, meaning I have little connections with 溥心畬, My mother's side is even descended from Emperor Shengzong's line of the Liao Dynasty who was a Khitan, most of the people that were included in the Bordered White Banner were Khitans.

[raininthesouth]

@ManjuSu I don't understand why the Qing government didn't send any soldiers to fight for Taiwan, or any weapons. Not even KMT sent a single troop to fight for Taiwan. The only Chinese who ever fought for Taiwan were Koxinga and his troops. His descendants are now Taiwanese. China didn't do any work at all. Now they want the island. They want something for nothing. Gee, thanks for helping. 

[raininthesouth]

@ManjuSu 溥心畬 is a member of the Manchu royal family, relative of the emperor. I thought you would know since he is a famous Chinese landscape painter. Seems like he would rather come to Taiwan than stay in China. Wonder why. And yes, I am talking about Koxinga the MIng loyalist. My mother's side is descended from Koxinga's line. I think Koxinga claimed Taiwan for the Ming dynasty, then the Qing government gave it away just like that. All that work for nothing.

[ManjuSu]

@raininthesouth My mother's ancestors were from the Sushin clan or the Manchu White Banner, Pu Ru came from the Aisin Gioro clan or the Manchu Yellow Banner, I have no connection with this person; nor does my mother. They might have thought twice? It was not as simple as you think it was.