Presidential Forum on Faith, Values & Poverty (1 of 6)

Sojourners hosted a CNN live broadcast of leading Democratic presidential contenders Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, and Barack Obama on Monday, June 4, for A Presidential Forum on Faith, Values, and Poverty at Lisner Auditorium of The George Washington University.

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[chuckinla]

But Bad Hillary can't go away. You have to have the Hillary who says Obama is "elitist" and "demeaning," and you have to keep running ads that portray him as the guy who won't be able to protect us from the Great Depression, Pearl Harbor, long lines at the gas pump, Osama bin Laden or ringing telephones.

And speaking of Osama bin Laden, isn't he a Muslim? And didn't Bad Hillary say Obama was not a Muslim "as far as I know"? Keep up that subtle stuff. It is gold

Pillary is a pig!!!

[GraceGuitars]

John Edwards: "I believe in evolution"

Questioner: "so are the millions who don't wrong?"

John Edwards: "no"

Me: "hmm........"

My conclusion: John Edwards wants to please everybody - i.e. not man enough to stand for what he supposedly "believes" in. You can't have your cake and eat it too, senator.

[soyoucantalk]

The make-up done for this is very bad. Edwards looks red/pink/orange as did Obama.

[DustinKoffman]

The Christian Church is already politicized since the creation of the Moral Majority. Not going away. And why should it? You wrote, "We need to keep certain people from taking over ...? Hmmmm .. sounds a tad autocratic, no?

[resanime]

Surely not all Christians hate poor people, and surely not all Christians are so dumb to believe that God blew up the Earth balloon 4000 years ago. I think people have just gotten dumber.

[SonicBoomC98]

I hate to say this but the Evangelicals are exactly the reason why we need the seperation of church in state. We need to keep certain people from taking over and telling everyone else how to be a Christian. Ofcourse it has been abused. The basis of it is not to keep government and religion completely seperate but to keep one from controlling the other. The whole idea of not being able to were religious symbols to work or small groups not being allowed to pray if they want to is just crazy.

[SonicBoomC98]

And if we did that we would be no better than these other countries we claim are so evil that make Islam the only accepted lifestyle.

[SonicBoomC98]

I'm going to say something I uased to hate for people to say "you can't legislate morality." You can't make someone be Christian by law, and you can't make someone not have pre-marital sex by law. So, this idea that Democrats can't be Christians because they don't pass laws to make the Bible and it's teaching the law of the land is just crazy. Actually now that I think about it, it would be unGodly because God wants you to serve him willingly not because someone made you.

[SonicBoomC98]

And half these people who claim we need more charity and less social programs probably don't even care about giving to charity. IF you can try to regulate morality, why can't someone else try to regulate civil rights, fair treatment of workers, and social/economical upliftment. So, I guess people were supposed to wait for charity to solve segregration and unfair treatment of workers?

[SonicBoomC98]

And what kind of Christian kicks someone out of their orginization just because they consider them an enviromentalist or because they support a few Democratic social programs? How Christian are the Evangelicals to do something like that? They're more of a political movement than a religious one anyway if not they wouldn't have such a strict line on what politics one can support.